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post #21 of 24 Old 04-14-2012, 02:59 PM
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Oh poor thing! I'm glad you found the problem, though.

I don't know how you'd keep a shoe on, unless it's the glued-on type. Maybe an Eastboot-type boot would help.

As for my Easyboots: they fit pretty well, I think, EXCEPT that the back band seems too wide. I had to trim it down to half the width for my other horse, and I think I'll do it this time too, to clear the heel bulbs (?).
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post #22 of 24 Old 04-14-2012, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingchange1991 View Post
....They xrayed it and found a lot of dead tissue which they said could act like a foreign body.
Given the chronic nature of the problem, a sequestrum (bone fragment) is highly likely due osteomyelitis (bone infection). In chronic cases, the solar margin or palmar wings can "shed" a necrotic piece of bone. Xrays should show the debris but a "missing piece" may not be immediately obvious. The palmar wings can appear roughened, hiding any small missing fragments.

The vets may have removed the sequestrum along with surrounding necrotic tissue and not even realized it. They also may have missed it. If the abscessing returns, you'll know.

Now what I'm worried about is do you guys think she'll need corrective shoeing after all of this or will they just grow it out?
Depends upon extent of trauma/resection. Shoes may be needed to provide support and/or stabilize the hoof capsule. Can't really say without photos or better, in person evaluation. Trust your vet/farrier team.

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post #23 of 24 Old 04-14-2012, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingchange1991 View Post
I do not lie when I say she will fake it from time to time. This time she was not faking it but I'll get to that in a sec. Every so often when I cant get to the barn regularly like I normally do the barn staff will call me like "Gypsy pulled up lame again" and then I get there and shes perfectly sound. I will lunge her, I will ask other people to look at her I will palpate every inch of her hooves and she is perfectly fine. There's no place on the hoof that has a bust on it where the abscess blew through and drained out. I always give her a couple of days off just to be sure but she does it EVERY TIME I'm not at the barn for more than 3 days.
Firstly, wasn't at all trying to imply you were lying & sorry if you took it that way. Just that the perception of what on the surface seems like 'faking it' is incorrect, IMO. For eg. how the horse is managed, what is different when you're not there for a few days - lack of exercise? - may be part of the problem. Horses, like us, can also be stiff & sore in the mornings for eg, but with a bit of movement can be fine, so just because the horse is not lame by the time you arrive doesn't at all mean she's faking it.

trainer says that all the intensive digging will mean shes probably out for 4-6 weeks. Poo but I'm glad we're fixing it.
Now what I'm worried about is do you guys think she'll need corrective shoeing after all of this or will they just grow it out?
As for shoeing, I still think it best to keep her unshod & booted if possible, but agree with Mark, that without having much information about the severity or otherwise of the 'excavations', who knows whether shoes may be necessary for support for a bit. As for time out of work, again, only educated guess without more info, but if she were booted to provide protection, she should be OK to be ridden shortly.
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I wasn't going to comment, because loosie as pretty much covered every base with the information given. Always tough to "trouble shoot" a problem via phone, email, or posts.
But I do cringe when I have people tell me their horse if faking pain. While a horse is a bit like a teenage child, they don't "think" in that way. Horses can learn to behave in a way to manipulate something they want, (e.g. my mare will start doing things things on her own without being told to because she thinks by doing them she'll get a treat), but it doesn't envolve "faking" pain. If they're not in pain they are not going to pretend to be. In 44 years I've never seen a horse that had perfectly healthy feet or a back that wasn't sore the day before suddenly pretend that they hurt.
I can understand how people think horses fake it. It's easy to not see something if it's not jumping out at us and so we give the horse more complex "human" thought processes. People often do that with many animals.
Oh, the dog stories are worse than the horse ones, but that's beyond the scope of this site.

And for what it's worth...I whole heartedly agree that shoeing an unhealthy foot is not something I would recommend. It can add "insult to injury". But not my horse, so not my call.
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