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    09-30-2013, 11:31 PM
  #41
Showing
Loosie, a question for you. Why do horses grow bars if we keep trimming them down? When trimming my mare's walls, the edge near the hoof wall was brought to the height of the wall but the remainder of the bar was untouched. An old farrier who had done thousands of horses told me the bars improve traction. I owned her 23 years and she was never lame.
     
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    09-30-2013, 11:39 PM
  #42
Green Broke
I have always appreciated your thoughts and comments on the various problems and situations that have been posted on this forum, Loosie.
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    09-30-2013, 11:47 PM
  #43
Weanling
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Prevention and Relief of Navicul

Not sure if mentioned yet, articles on bars and frog maint.
Pete Ramey hoof care laminitis founder horse navicular disease thrush equine foot development farrier is the home page.
All articles are worth the read.
     
    10-01-2013, 12:07 AM
  #44
Trained
Hmm, just spent some time looking at that site - I think it's always worth looking, as there is so much more to learn... but can't say I'm at all excited by what I see. Pity she doesn't give any good case studies or egs, to show any serious improvements... I wonder if any horses end up fully rehabbed, or that's as far as she's able to take them? No xrays or such, to show any evidence of changes while leaving heels so overgrown.
     
    10-01-2013, 12:22 AM
  #45
Trained
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Loosie, a question for you. Why do horses grow bars if we keep trimming them down? When trimming my mare's walls, the edge near the hoof wall was brought to the height of the wall but the remainder of the bar was untouched. An old farrier who had done thousands of horses told me the bars improve traction. I owned her 23 years and she was never lame.
Bars are just an extension of the rest of the walls. They grow & we trim them, just like the walls do. If there is insufficient exercise of abrasive surfaces, the bars, as with the rest, can overgrow. But not sure if that's what you meant by your question.

Perhaps you meant why do they 'pop back' so quickly if they're trimmed low? I think that if bars, quarters, etc have been overlong for some time, when they're trimmed & relieved of pressure, they 'relax down' very quickly & may suddenly become 'due for a trim' again. But then again, I think also that when material is overtrimmed, it will often 'pop back' quickly when needed - so may be an indication that you shouldn't have gone that far. So I think both these factors need to be considered when working out how much should be trimmed, and the outcome considered carefully as to whether more or less should have been taken.

So... I tend to treat the bars like the rest of the walls - they are trimmed to the same level in relation to the sole as the rest. That depends on a number of factors, especially environment, and I do leave extra wall height(by a few mm) for traction for horses on muddy, soft ground for eg. On hard ground, walls & bars will be more likely at or hardly above the level of the sole **Always with exceptions though, esp in the heel dept - tho it seems the eg of the website I just looked at is vast overkill in that regard.

& thanks Chev!
     
    10-01-2013, 12:30 AM
  #46
Trained
And I must say, no disrespect intended to you lovestotolt - I'm sorry it probably came across that way, as I got carried away at how... unimpressed I was with that site!
     
    10-01-2013, 12:31 AM
  #47
Green Broke
Wow -if that's all it takes, I must be really slow on the uptake. I've been watching my trimmer 2 years and still have tons of questions.

I used the rasp mostly when I first started and as I've gotten better I use the nippers more. Soaking helps soften the feet and can make things easier. OP are you putting the cutting part of the nipper on the wall and bracing against the sole to make the cut?


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Originally Posted by Trinity3205    

I highly recommend learning ELPO hoof mapping but Pete Rameys site and videos are a great investment also. I learned how to do my initial trimming with Ramey. The only thing he doesnt really address well enough IMO is how to deal with bars/heel height and distortion of the toe which is the real biggie. Almost ALL domestic horses have some toe distortion. Id say at least 80%. ELPO addressed all of that AND it isnt strictly barefoot but rather good trim whether bare OR shod. I like that.
Trin -if you ever have the time, I would be interested in a thread about and like to see some examples of the bars/heels and toe distortion you mentioned.
     

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