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        05-07-2013, 06:22 AM
      #11
    Trained
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    As far back as I can remember she has always started flare out as she grew.
    If flaring is a common problem for the horse, she's either not being trimmed well, or she's not being trimmed often enough. Maybe a bit of both. Maybe also combined with low grade metabolic issues. If they're always flared on one side, that is either imbalanced trimming or limb/loading imbalance - she loads the outside of her feet rather than evenly. This would also be a reason for the frogs to be skewiff. If this has only been happening recently, I'd suggest perhaps the hooves aren't being trimmed balanced, imbalances aren't being addressed adequately so are getting gradually worse, &/or there is a body issue causing her to be tight/wonky, so a bodyworker may be a good move.
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    Originally Posted by WyomingSissy    
    horses were trimmed so short that they were on their soles.
    Which is not necessarily wrong, depending on specifics. The walls shouldn't be overgrowing the sole at the ground surface by much at all - a few mm if it's deemed necessary to leave them longer. Peripheral loading of the walls will also cause flaring.
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    putting their weight directly on the frogs.
    Which is as they should be. Can't grow healthy frogs/heels if they're out of commission.
         
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        05-07-2013, 07:07 AM
      #12
    Showing
    I'm wondering if the heels were pulled back too much in one trim resulting in sore extensor tendons.
         
        05-07-2013, 03:55 PM
      #13
    Trained
    Well, just thought I would mention the other highly improbable cause, just to cover all the bases...which is: her frogs grow very quickly. That sounds ridiculous, but I have a haffie and I have to trim her frogs b/c if I did not they would grow out and lay over. I trim her feet often b/c she has a slight pigeon toe - so I am keenly aware of their rate of growth...and it is phenomenal.
         
        05-10-2013, 11:41 AM
      #14
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by loosie    
    If flaring is a common problem for the horse, she's either not being trimmed well, or she's not being trimmed often enough. Maybe a bit of both. Maybe also combined with low grade metabolic issues. If they're always flared on one side, that is either imbalanced trimming or limb/loading imbalance - she loads the outside of her feet rather than evenly. This would also be a reason for the frogs to be skewiff. If this has only been happening recently, I'd suggest perhaps the hooves aren't being trimmed balanced, imbalances aren't being addressed adequately so are getting gradually worse, &/or there is a body issue causing her to be tight/wonky, so a bodyworker may be a good move.
    Which is not necessarily wrong, depending on specifics. The walls shouldn't be overgrowing the sole at the ground surface by much at all - a few mm if it's deemed necessary to leave them longer. Peripheral loading of the walls will also cause flaring.

    Which is as they should be. Can't grow healthy frogs/heels if they're out of commission.
    The flaring is most likely because of improper trimming. I've been looking for a good farrier for the horses, and before the one that had a heart attack, had never used them more than once. After he trimmed her I could tell she felt so much better. So she has been getting trimmed wrong up until recently.
    She's been moving so much better since "M" (the farrier that I like, but had the heart attack) trimmed her. But after I had to use the other farrier, "D", all of the horses were obviously sore and tender, and limping on at least two legs.
    Since she was shod on monday by "M" she's been back up to snuff, back to how she was when he first trimmed her.
    I do believe that she needs to get trimmed more often then some of our other horses, as her and the gelding have fast growing hooves, and both flare a little. But the biggest problem was fiding a farrier we liked.
    I've only had one other farrier come out twice, acually, and after that I was done. Because she fought him tooth and nail, because he was making her hurt. Whereas with "M" she will stand there, possibly fall asleep.

    I may have explained it wrong, how they were trimmed to short. It was deffinately not a good thing.
         
        05-10-2013, 11:47 AM
      #15
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Missy May    
    Well, just thought I would mention the other highly improbable cause, just to cover all the bases...which is: her frogs grow very quickly. That sounds ridiculous, but I have a haffie and I have to trim her frogs b/c if I did not they would grow out and lay over. I trim her feet often b/c she has a slight pigeon toe - so I am keenly aware of their rate of growth...and it is phenomenal.

    I don't think her frogs grow abnormally fast, but her hooves do grow rather fast.

    I'll keep an eye on that though :)

    It sounds to me that she has fast goring feet, which causes at least some of the flare, she's been getting trimmed incorrectly (which I knew, just had to find a good farrier)
    Hopefully with getting trimmed correctly she will both feel better and work/move better. I, personally, have already noticed a difference in her.

    For starters, she has started taking her right lead undersaddle! Which if you've read any of my threads before, is a huge deal for her! She's feels less stiff, and she's moving so much better.
    Which is why :) things had to happen.... Last night she lost a shoe (She's only shod on her front feet) and it was her right shoe. She was noticably limping, so I called the farrier and he won't be able to make it out here until 9 tonight. So I padded her right hooves to help protect it and help even her out.

    One thing after another, but it could have been worse. Like another barbed wire fiasco.
         

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