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    11-06-2013, 03:35 AM
Thanks for your input everyone. Had the Chiro out last week which has definitely helped. Less stiff, lengthened stride. When turning left he's reaching across his body now (less stiff) but is still shuffling sideways turning right, so is clearly sore on his offside foreleg. The farrier has cancelled on me TWICE this week so thinking I'll take him to another farrier who's wife is also a vet (bonus!)
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    11-06-2013, 10:20 PM
With toe first caused by confirmation, which type of confirmation is the most prone to toe first?
None except club footed horses, if the hooves are balanced correctly and the horse is sound.
    11-06-2013, 11:48 PM
^& I'm inclined to think of club feet as predominantly postural, not 'conformational' too.
    11-07-2013, 12:02 AM
Gene Ovnicek has a few good things to say on toe first landings, navicular syndrome and hoof mapping. He is a highly respected American farrier who confesses to doing as he was taught with these horses but now does things differently. Ultra-sound has made a difference in the approach to dealing with navicular syndrome horses. One of the things they have learned is that bone remodelling happens in only 10% of the horses diagnosed as having navicular. What has been learned is that it is the supporting tendons that are inflamed. So if interested, research on youtube about hoof mapping. Gene likes to see the heels brought back to 1/4" below the heel dimples. No longer should horses have their heels elevated and altho it may alleviate the problem now, it will worsen in time.
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    11-07-2013, 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
that bone remodelling happens in only 10% of the horses diagnosed as having navicular.
I suppose that means diagnosed with 'navicular syndrome', as I'm thinking it's still only positively diagnosed as 'disease' if with bony changes? Seems to be a move towards labling it all a 'syndrome' which is good if you ask me, because a) it was only 'diagnosed' as a 'disease' when bone remodelling *of the navicular* was seen, so to many people(up to 90% it sounds like, from that report) it was largely discounted if rads didn't show 'it', and b) while the navicular region is obviously affected *it is a whole hoof problem*.
    11-07-2013, 03:52 PM
Gene likes to see the heels brought back to 1/4" below the heel dimples.
I think someone has misinterpreted him. (I have worked with Gene extensively and teach the ELPO protocol) He wants the heel buttresses within 1/4" of being forward of the frog dimple, or back at a line even with it if possible. Also he does wedge horses, frequently. He uses leverage testing (Krosscheck Leverage Testing Device) to discover what an individual horse may need. If wedges are needed, he wedges.

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