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post #11 of 16 Old 11-02-2011, 11:21 AM
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If you want to ride in the winter, consider having your farrier weld some borium to his shoes. That will help prevent slipping on ice and roads. When I lived in NY and PA, we didn't stop riding for the winter, we just took extra precautions.

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post #12 of 16 Old 11-02-2011, 03:31 PM
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you could have pads put on aswell to keep the snow and ice from building up in them too. i just moved from pa and we rode all winter its the best time to ride bareback.
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Thanks for these tips! I will ask the farrier about this. I would really love to be able to do some light riding in the winter.

I rode him this afternoon for the first time since Friday morning and he was the Horrible Horse. Mr. Skittish Short Attention Span managed to pull the hitch right out of the hitching post. :( It wasn't just him, it was all the horses, like they all got out of bed on the wrong side this morning. Right after Huey wrecked the hitching post the trainer decided that all horses needed to get lunged before getting ridden, and I watched, most of them got lunged for a reeeeeeaaaaallllllllyyyyyy long time before they stopped kicking up their heels and racing around. Now that I see what happens when these guys don't get enough exercise it just makes me want to ride even more frequently.
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post #14 of 16 Old 11-02-2011, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ThursdayNext View Post
Vet based his "great" comment on the work he did with the hoof-tester, not on the shoeing.
I was thinking more about the long underslung heels rather than the shoes. OK, sounds like vet just meant there wasn't any obvious sensitivity, nothing about hoof form. As for hoof growth, yes, it does change, for a number of reasons, so while 6-weekly may be a good schedule for this horse some of the year, that's not a given & you may have to get him trimmed more frequently in some seasons/situations. Generally I find 4-6 weekly is reasonable for most.

The farrier said that the angle on each individual foot are fine, but that the front feet don't have identical angles, so they don't match each other - hence the wedge on one foot to bring them into alignment with each other.
I thought perhaps the wedges were in order to attempt less pressure on heels to allow them to stand up more. Is this making matched pairs based on the whole horse, concurrent with bodyworker or such? If not, how does he know the horse doesn't innately, or due to shoulder injury, posture or some such, need his feet to be odd? Among other sources, on the site you'll find an article on 'club foot' which should help you understand this a bit better. Generally the feeling about club feet is to trim/shoe what the horse has got, rather than trying to create an aesthetic ideal.

She also reminded me that when the farrier comes out in a couple of weeks, he's going to pull the shoes off for the winter. I gather it's the practice in this barn to have the horses go barefoot in the winter
That's great. Aside from it sounding like the horses don't need shoeing over winter, it is generally accepted that it's not great to shoe a horse long term without respite. Having the winter off will allow his feet to recoup a bit from the effects and with a good farrier & regular hoof care during this time, you may be able to resolve the underrun heels by the time you want shoes on again - I find underrun heels are far easier to deal with bare.

Now that I see what happens when these guys don't get enough exercise it just makes me want to ride even more frequently.
Yeah, free movement & exercise is important for horses, for their health & soundness, as well as behaviour. Don't forget, if you're feeding high energy feed because he's been in a lot of work, cut back on this too. They can do a lot less in a snowy winter left to themselves in the paddock, so working them regularly, be it riding or otherwise, can be even more important. You might want to look into hoof boots(try Easycare for a wide selection & lots of info), if you'll be riding him on hard/rough ground & he doesn't cope bare.
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post #15 of 16 Old 11-04-2011, 03:32 PM
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I used a farrier for a long time who was very popular and very "competent" until about a year and a half ago.

Someone pointed out to me some issues...and my eyes opened. A year and a half later I'm still fixing horrible balance issues (I guess I should say my new farrier is fixing those issues.)

My point is, don't trust someone "just because." Vets, for one thing, aren't farriers. Your horse's feet will tell you what to believe, and I believe from these pictures that something isn't right.
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post #16 of 16 Old 11-08-2011, 10:36 AM
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A good trim is in order, whether it be under a future shoe or not. The heel is too long and pulled way too forward out from under the horse's descending weight. You can see the path of pathology from it and how the horse is trying to self trim in spite of the shoe.
If you look at the existing black coronary band, you can see that the long heel has jammed up and the fact that its too far forward, has left the heel bulb hanging. Put these two together and you get a pinched-in line of collapse halfway down the hoof, which changes into old flare below. The toe clip is insult to injury. The coronary band should be straight, the hoof wall straight, the heel supporting and the quarter being a lifted arch to his foot. Here the heel is long, crunched forward where the quarter should be and parts and pieces smashing into each other.
My advice, if you intend on going barefoot, to find a good trimmer who does understand balance and function and will work towards healing and improving things during the time off. Hope this helps...

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