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post #1 of 10 Old 09-15-2013, 06:29 AM Thread Starter
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Question What is this?

Hi all, sorry to be asking such a newbie question but here goes.

Today when cleaning out Rose's feet I found a gap / hole between the wall and sole on her right front. I havent noticed it before. I last cleaned her feet four days ago. She's not lame at all, never has been since we got her four months ago. She let me poke at it with the hoof pick and it didn't seem sore at all, but I didn't poke in it too hard.

I can't get pictures today because its evening and too dark, but I'll try tomorrow.
She's long in the toe because she wouldn't stand well for the farrier last time, though I've worked on it a lot and she's a lot better now, for me anyway
Farrier is due to come out again this week.
She is on full turnout in a five acre paddock, she's a little overweight but not obese or cresty. Her paddock is very wet, but not muddy. We've had a LOT of rain, no paddocks are really dry.
What is this hole?
Is it an old abscess? Seedy toe / white line disease ?
Has she trod on something sharp?
I'm worried, should I do anything other than get the farrier ASAP
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post #2 of 10 Old 09-15-2013, 11:55 AM
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Without a pic I am thinking that is likely some wall sparation. When the wall gets too long so the horse is walking on the wall of the hoof, the the wall starts pulling away and creates this gap on the bottom and flaring on the ouside of the hoof. The laminae are stretched. Barefoot horses need to have the wall trimmed to the level of the sole at least every 2 weeks to prevent this. I do mine weekly.
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post #3 of 10 Old 09-15-2013, 12:23 PM
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Hi all, sorry to be asking such a newbie question but here goes.

Today when cleaning out Rose's feet I found a gap / hole between the wall and sole on her right front. I havent noticed it before. I last cleaned her feet four days ago. She's not lame at all, never has been since we got her four months ago. She let me poke at it with the hoof pick and it didn't seem sore at all, but I didn't poke in it too hard.

I can't get pictures today because its evening and too dark, but I'll try tomorrow.
She's long in the toe because she wouldn't stand well for the farrier last time, though I've worked on it a lot and she's a lot better now, for me anyway
Farrier is due to come out again this week.
She is on full turnout in a five acre paddock, she's a little overweight but not obese or cresty. Her paddock is very wet, but not muddy. We've had a LOT of rain, no paddocks are really dry.
What is this hole?
Is it an old abscess? Seedy toe / white line disease ?
Has she trod on something sharp?
I'm worried, should I do anything other than get the farrier ASAP
Sounds like the horse is due for a trim. Without a picture, it sounds like with the wet weather she could have some whiteline disease, or just a normal separation when she's due for a trim.

I think standing for a farrier is a real important thing to work on. Farriers get a lot of wear and tear on their bodies or injuries when a horse doesn't behave. I know this lady who's horse won't stand for a farrier, and when the lady works with the problem, she lets go of the leg and says she needs a break. The horse is 3 years old. Maybe ask your farrier for tips on how to teach her well.
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post #4 of 10 Old 09-15-2013, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the responses.
I've taken some pictures but I'll post them a bit later when I can use a computer rather than the iPad .
Farrier will be out later this week.
Hopefully it's just needing a trim, last time he didn't get as much off from the toe as I'd like, but she was very freaked out by the whole ordeal and I was more worried about her trusting the farrier to enable future trimming. She's good with getting her fronts done, okay with one back, but terrible with the other back. First time I wanted her to pick it up it took me over half an hour, next time was better, but we are down to less than a minute now.
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post #5 of 10 Old 09-16-2013, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
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Pictures

Okay so I know these aren't the best but its all I could get.
Fronts

The crack in her left front is slowly growing out but is a result of the previous owner letting the flare get out of hand.

Bear in mind she had just managed to tread in cow manure, so ignore the colour of this one, I gave it a quick wash. This is the sole of the right front where I found the hole.

You can see it on the right.
This is a close up of the hole itself


What do you think?
Farrier is coming out on Friday. She's still not lame and isn't concerned about having the hole poked with the pick.
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post #6 of 10 Old 09-16-2013, 06:07 PM
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Looks like your horse is due for a trim. Looks like that hole is a bit of WLD. Hopefully it's not too deep and a good trim will take care of it.
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Thanks princessfluffybritches hope that's all that's going on.
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post #8 of 10 Old 09-21-2013, 03:15 PM
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Yeah, I have had the same problem with my barefoot boy this summer. It's hoof wall separation with a bit WLD, nothing to severe. Keep koppertox on it, get a good trim, should be fine. What is with her frogs, though. Did the ferrier cut them off? There is far too little frog there for proper shock absorption, especially in a barefoot horse.
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post #9 of 10 Old 09-21-2013, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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Actually, in the photos they do look weird, but they don't look like that in real life... I think? ****, now I'm doubting myself. I'll check this afternoon, I'm meant to be working at the moment.
Farrier hasn't been yet as we had to cancel due to a huge thunderstorm. Rose is easily spooked so I'd rather she didn't associate thunder and lightning with the farrier LOL He's coming back this week. I'll put some tea tree oil on it in the meantime.
Once he's trimmed her, I'll get some better shots of her feet. I'd be interested in opinions because he's a new farrier and I'm not sure that he's any good. Personally I think her heels are underrun and her toes way too long.
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post #10 of 10 Old 09-23-2013, 05:27 PM
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Dribble a bit of 1/2 water, 1/2 bleach in the hole. That's the treatment used in this area.
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