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    09-23-2010, 10:01 AM
  #1
Foal
What do you think of this farrier? & hoof ?'s

The farrier came Tuesday. First off he was late, and he was supposed to come Friday but after 3 hrs of waiting I called & rescheduled. So back to he was late, I had the girls in the paddock when Bella started kicking at Indi. She kicked her three good times. (This has never happened before, they are sisters, and best friends.) I got Indi out and was walking her to calm her but he wanted to go ahead & trim her hooves. She was covered in pee. (She was peeing when Bella kicked her the first time, with all the tail thrashing and running around she was covered with pee). He was pissed because she was covered in pee and made a rude statements about it. He trimmed her up and kept fussing at her for not standing still. She is normally very mild mannered and stands still for everything. I was being to get really irritated but he settled in to trimming her hooves & was some what pleasant after that.

After he trimmed Indi I put her in the paddock, then got Bella out. He trimmed her with no problems. He keep mentioning how hard their hooves were, especially the underside, even the frogs.

Wednesday evening I noticed Bella was lame. She is so sore, much more than usual. I am wondering if it was because he was in a hurry and did something or is it because of her hooves being so hard. Indi's were hard too but she has had no problems.

Tell me what you think of this farrier.

Here's what I think: First I am ticked because he is late all the time. Second, he won't make an appt ahead of time but says he will call when they are due again. He nevers calls, I have to call him. Third, He was in a hurry Tuesday and was rude about it. Fourth, if he had given me 5 minutes I would have let Bella go first so Indi would have had time to calm down.

Now on to the hoof questions: It has been so dry lately, is that why their hooves are so hard? Is there something I should be putting on their hooves to keep them from getting so hard? Is it normal for them to go lame for a couple days after a farrier visit? ( Since I have had them they are a little ouchy for a couple days afterward but never lame like this)
     
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    09-23-2010, 10:13 AM
  #2
Showing
You're obviously displeased with this farrier, so why would you even consider continuing to use him?

First, if the horse was 'covered in pee', you should have at least hosed her off before having the farrier work on her, so yes, I can see why he'd be a little miffed about that. Horse urine stinks. He's being paid to trim hooves, not get covered in horse bodily waste.

Second, your horse should stand still for the farrier. If it doesn't and you don't discipline it, don't expect the farrier to be pleasant. After all, he's the one getting knocked about while under the horse, not you.

Third, if the farrier's ALWAYS late, doesn't schedule ahead of time, cancels without notice, and you put up with it, that's your fault. I expect professionalism from my farrier, and get it.

Fourth, a horse should never be lame after a trim. If both your horses are always lame after a trim, then it's the farrier. If they were lame only after this most recent one, it could be because they were fighting and are sore.

The farrier doesn't sound like someone I'd want trimming my horses.
     
    09-23-2010, 10:30 AM
  #3
Banned
I have to laugh at your theory that since they are sisters that it is shocking that they do not get along all the time.
For starters, they are horses. They really have no clue about siblings.
But lets have fun and do some anthropomorphizing for a bit.
Have you ever heard of the term 'sibling rivalry'? It did not come about because siblings always get along wonderfully. What makes you think if human siblings can not get along all the time that horse siblings should get along all the time?

I would guess your farrier is frequently late because he has too many clients like you. Clients who do not have their horses clean and ready when he gets there, but then insist he wait "five minutes" while they get them ready.

When you saw him pull in the driveway and start to get his stuff out of his truck why were you not switching horses? I am sure it could have been done in that amount of time. It is not his fault that you were not ready.


I agree with SR, you and this farrier are not a good fit. Find another farrier.
     
    09-23-2010, 10:48 AM
  #4
Foal
Ouch! I never imagined that I would be the one in question here.

What I was trying to get across is that he wouldn't WAIT for me to spray the pee off because HE was in a hurry. I did say I was going to spray her off. She got covered in pee at the same moment that he pulled in the driveway. I had them clean and ready to go, so how is that my fault. He made comments about it even after I said let me spray her off. That's not my fault. I wanted to do Bella first but no, he wouldn't wait.

Second of all if you had just had a 1200 lb horse kick you three times would you stand still?? No, think not. Again, I wanted him to do Bella first but no he insisted he do Indi first.

Third, neither horse fought or was unruly. Even Indi who was kicked just fidgeted a bit, but she did not fight or was unruly at all.

Clients like me?? OMG forgive me for being human and asking a simple question. I DID have them clean and ready to go. The kicking and peeing happened at the same darn time he pulled up. I was the one standing and waiting with them CLEAN AND READY to go, he pulled up Bella kicked, Indi peed. That's not my fault.

Never in my life have I ever been talked to this way. You both need to seriously evaluate the way you talk to people. Isn't this board supposed to be a place people come to ask questions. I didn't see anything that said that people would be attacked.
     
    09-23-2010, 10:56 AM
  #5
Banned
Yes, but sometimes the answers are not what the person who asked the question wanted.

I totally miss how it is his fault, still.

You had a horse in your hands that was covered in pee and agitated.
You see the farrier pulling in the driveway.
You walk pee covered agitated horse to stall/paddock/hitching post secure them and grab not pee covered other horse you want the farrier to start with. All while the farrier is parking vehicle and getting tools out.

Farrier does not pee covered horse while you spray off pee covered horse.
     
    09-23-2010, 11:10 AM
  #6
Yearling
Squeak, there are lots of nice people on here but just as in life, there are the rude ones that find fault with everything. Take the good and ignore the rest
     
    09-23-2010, 11:12 AM
  #7
Foal
Thank you littrella I really appreciate at that.
     
    09-23-2010, 11:14 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Squeak, I think you are missing the obvious point here. I don't think the things said to you have been rude. I think you are just missing where your own mistake lies. The thing is, these are YOUR horses and your decisions regarding them. Don't make such decisions optional. Simply lead Bella over to do first, and go wash Indi and calm her in the meantime. No arguments, no being wishy-washy, and no leaving the decisions up to someone other than yourself, and then bemoaning the consequences.
     
    09-23-2010, 11:26 AM
  #9
Showing
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Originally Posted by squeak351    
Never in my life have I ever been talked to this way. You both need to seriously evaluate the way you talk to people. Isn't this board supposed to be a place people come to ask questions. I didn't see anything that said that people would be attacked.
I never attacked you, nor was I being rude. I answered your post based on the information given. If there was more information to be provided, you should have done so in your first post.

You never SAID the farrier 'insisted' on doing the fidgety, urine covered horse first. Had you stated such, I'd have told you that was his problem, then.

Both of you are at fault. You for putting up with a lousy farrier, and him for being unprofessional. But you're more at fault, because these are your horses and you're responsible for their well being.

If you wanted people to pat you on the head and tell you that you're all kinds of wonderful and the farrier sucks, well, too bad for you.

There are BBs out there that will do just that, but this isn't one of them.
     
    09-23-2010, 11:28 AM
  #10
Trained
I wouldn't even take a second thought to getting a new farrier.

Some horse may get a bit touchy after a thorough trim, BUT they should not be obviously lame!!!! That and the fact that he was late, twice...there's his three strikes.
     

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