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post #11 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 11:38 AM
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alright, there was no reason for you to get attacked like that. you asked a simple question. horses are animals. they get dirty, they act up. you can't control every little thing they do. you horse was kicked and she peed on herself. obviously you didn't pee on your horse, or kick her youself. there's nothing you could have done to control that from happening. you should have hosed her off before, but from personal experience, my farrier used to be really rushy as well. he probably would have left if i offered to hose him off beforehand. BUT you are paying the farrier to shod your horses, so he should be respectful and have the time and patience for the job. he doesn't seem like an ideal farrier though, so i would definitely not hesitate to switch..

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post #12 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Yes, I agree that it was both of our faults. I also agree that I didn't state that he insisted on doing the pee covered horse first. It all happened so quickly and he was in such a hurry I didn't say anything. Yes, that was my fault. No, I don't want anyone to pat my head. I am a big girl and can deal well with my own. What upsets me is the comments such as "your not easy to get along" and " clients like you". That is being rude and that is attacking me. Neither of you know me personally, so how do you know that?
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post #13 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 11:41 AM
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I think this is more his fault than yours. If he would have been on time, one of the girls would have been out of the paddock and ready to go and the kicking and urinating would have never happened. And since he was late, he was in a hurry so he made things worse by not having the patience for you to clean your mare, therefore, he had to deal with the smell, and got crabby. I would say he is being unprofessional, if he didn't want to deal with the smell, he should've let you hose her off at least.
And I can understand why she was being antsy when being trimmed. She could sense his mood and she didn't like it. I've noticed that with my farrier. When he is not in a good mood, my geldings do stuff just to piss him off. I know they do. And when he is in a good mood, they stand like gentleman.
I don't see the need for people to get fussy with you over how your mares acted and whatnot.
But I would definitely go with a different farrier. Preferably one who has patience and isn't late. When my farrier is going to be a few minutes late, he calls and lets me know. I really appreciate that. But this is just my advice, I would definitely switch farriers.
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post #14 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 11:58 AM
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I wouldn't use him. My farrier and I communicate great. I ask a lot of questions and he is very patient. He tells me what I need to do but also is insistent that I am "the boss". My farrier was just out her not an hour ago and we were discussing pulling my Haflinger's shoes because I'm not doing that much road riding anymore and I was thinking of getting her boots. I expected him to put up a fuss because he wouldn't get the extra money but he didn't. He even went so far as to clean off my horses hooves and clean them out even though I was pretty adamant that I do it. He showed up early and they were not ready. He is even talking to me about teaching me how to trim my own horses' hooves.

He told me that he drove 50 miles to go to a new client's barn and nobody showed up! So I think the farrier/client relationship should go both ways.

After reading your post I thank goodness for my farrier.
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post #15 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Indyhorse View Post
Squeak, I think you are missing the obvious point here. I don't think the things said to you have been rude. I think you are just missing where your own mistake lies. The thing is, these are YOUR horses and your decisions regarding them. Don't make such decisions optional. Simply lead Bella over to do first, and go wash Indi and calm her in the meantime. No arguments, no being wishy-washy, and no leaving the decisions up to someone other than yourself, and then bemoaning the consequences.


As far as the comments being rude - no. It really stings when folks open our eyes. You can choose to see it as rude or you can choose to say - thank you for showing me another point of view.

AGAIN - if anyone wants to hear themselves repeated or only get pats on the back - e-mail your friends. If you post on a public internet board, you need to be prepared to hear things you do not like.
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post #16 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 12:37 PM
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Silly question, did this farrier always being late and not being willing to schedule appointments and always being in a hurry bother you before this visit?
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post #17 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 01:32 PM
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I see several valid reasons that you should find a new farrier but the glaring screaming reason is that your horses (you did say both?) are lame every time they get a trim. Not even shoes with nails being driven in JUST A TRIM. Have you asked him if he can see any reason for this? Has he made any suggestions about how to alleviate this problem? Has he been to a professional farrier school or is he "self taught"? You need to stand up for yourself and your horses. Tell this man you no longer need his services and find yourself a new farrier.
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post #18 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 01:37 PM
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I've dealt with farriers that didn't like just having the horse tied to trim its feet. So if he was the type, or the horse the type, to need to be held for the farrier then she wouldn't be able to go wash Indie off while Bella was done.

And from my understanding, the two started rough-housing as he was driving up? And if he's anything like my farrier, by the time he is in sight and then until he is standing with his rasp and standing waiting I can't even do up the halter, let alone catch a worked up horse. And yes, when I had two horse I left them loose in a pen. They were both very well behaved to be tied or just held together on the grass but my farrier wasn't guaranteed to be there at 3 on the dot, and because of that he was fine with waiting the 5 minutes to organize them. He has even gone in and caught one of my horses when he beat me there after school once.

I'm not saying you can expect you're farrier to do everything for you, but there are good ones out there, if you find he is unprofessional and not doing your horses right, find a new one.
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post #19 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 02:06 PM
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I would find a new farrier, your horses should not be lame after just a regular trim.

You are paying him to provide a service for you, and you are not happy, so switch to someone new.
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post #20 of 67 Old 09-23-2010, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer View Post
Third, if the farrier's ALWAYS late, doesn't schedule ahead of time, cancels without notice, and you put up with it, that's your fault. I expect professionalism from my farrier, and get it.
Why that's the fault of the horse owner? The only fault if you stay with such a farrier for long, but some "professionals" are like that - always late and you can do NOTHING about getting them on time or behave organized.

To the OP, I'd change the farrier. The whole situation just not right. Yes, it's an OWNER's job to train the horse to stand still, but things happen, and all farriers I run into understand that (and OK with it). For example, sometime horse can't keep the hoof for long time for whatever reason (often health). Good farrier will be understanding and patient in such situation. And I absolutely HATE when any professional (whether it's farrier, vet, or anyone else) is late without a reason for that (emergency, or too hard horse to deal before my appointment, or some other things are understandable of course).

P.S. BTW, yes, with the weather and ground being so dry the hoofs, sole, and frogs usually are very dry and hard as well.
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