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post #1 of 11 Old 01-15-2012, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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My horse grew off his front shoes in 3 weeks. Unheard of especially in winter, but whatever. I went to look to see how his white line looked and instead found this hard growth around the outer wall. What is this? Toe callous? Is it good, bad or neither?
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post #2 of 11 Old 01-15-2012, 11:00 AM
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If its up in the toe region and its been a few weeks, it could very well be toe callous. How does he seem with that shoe off? Gimpy? Ouchy? I know you pulled the hinds and those are coming along great.
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The shoe just came off sometime overnight Friday into Saturday. He's not at all ouchy on it, but I put a hoof boot on to be safe since the ground is currently rock hard.

The bizarre thing is, he never grew anything like this until I pulled his hind shoes. There was always just some obviously flaring and overgrowth. I don't get why the front feet that are still shod would start readjusting when the hind shoes were pulled.

That all being said, how in the world do you keep track of white line stretching/flaring if you can't see it?

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That's a trim for the shoe. When the shoe came off, he came down on his bars, which are excessive. That's all bar on each side of the frog and what you are seeing is constant pressure on them, which they don't like and causes damage to the lateral cartilages and on down the path to sidebone. He needs either another shoe or a barefoot trim and padded boots for a bit.

Clean up the hoof well with a scrub brush and find the edge of the sole going around the hoof. The white line is right outside of the sole line. It should be creamy yellow colored and 1/8" wide all the way around the sole.

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Thanks Missy. This is the low foot on a somewhat extreme case of high/low hoof. Would the fact that this is the low foot be a factor for the messy bars? This is the foot I figured would give me the most problems once I pulled the shoes since it's both the low foot, has a crushed heel and is flat as a pancake. I think I'm going to have my barefoot trimmer give him a good balancing trim on both feet and see if she can get them headed in the right direction. His feet are growing like weeds, so we'll see what we've got in a few short months.

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post #6 of 11 Old 01-18-2012, 06:57 AM
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That rim is unshed sole that was covered up by the shoe.

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That rim is unshed sole that was covered up by the shoe.
So it's dead sole that will eventually shed off? It's pretty darn hard. If I scrape it with a hoof pick, no white flakey stuff whatsoever.

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Yeah, it's a bit hard to see with the dirt, but I'm thinking sole material - compressed. Looks like there is a fair bit of extra length/flaring at the quarters & the heels could perhaps come down/back further.
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I just went against all my advice to others about going barefoot in the dead of winter. I had the other front shoe pulled and a barefoot setup trim done today. He was licking and chewing from the first touch, so I think it already feels better to him. He walked around the indoor ring like nothing's changed which is much better than when we pulled his hinds. He's in boots until tomorrow when there will be some snow to cushion the ground. Lots and lots of pics will follow in a few weeks with his progress.
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Excited to read up on his progress!
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