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    03-19-2012, 10:12 AM
  #1
Yearling
What should I have him do?

What should I have done to her feet? I know what I would ideally like, but I don't know if it's realistic or not (right now I have no real plans for her, just re-training for now). Her last trim was at the end of Nov. On the RF I would like the inside brought in (she looks like she's toeing in, but it doesn't seem like it's from her confirmation). Both back feet look like the outside is longer than the inside, take care of that. Also there is a crack parallel to the coronary band about an inch down, not sure if anything can be done with that, but what could that be from?

RF toe
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...IMAG0538-1.jpg

RF side
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...IMAG0539-1.jpg

RF sole
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0545.jpg

RF crack
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...IMAG0540-1.jpg

LF toe
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0546.jpg

LF side
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0547.jpg

LF sole
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0548.jpg
     
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    03-19-2012, 10:17 AM
  #2
Yearling
Back Feet

RR toe
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0552.jpg

RR side
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0553.jpg

RR sole
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0554.jpg

LR toe
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0556.jpg

LR side
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0557.jpg

LR sole
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/...f/IMAG0559.jpg

Sorry the pics aren't the clearest. Trying to hold her feet still, my hand still, and using the camera on the phone was a little trickier than I wanted.

Thanks for any help.
     
    03-19-2012, 09:02 PM
  #3
Foal
I'd just get him and let him go to work. Definitely due for a trim. Good balance and good bevel are what you need and definitely go after thrush.
     
    03-19-2012, 10:16 PM
  #4
Trained
Before I look at the pics, my knee-jerk response is to find a good farrier/trimmer & *allow him to do his/her job *regularly*. If you haven't had the horse trimmed since Nov, then it's way overdue & not meaning to be rude, but if you have to ask on an internet forum what to have the farrier do, then IMHO you don't have anywhere near enough knowledge or right to be telling a trimmer what to do.
     
    03-19-2012, 10:21 PM
  #5
Green Broke
I agree with loosie. Why not just call a farrier ASAP and have them do there job... I'm sure they won't have any problem teaching/showing you what he is doing to her feet.
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    03-19-2012, 10:36 PM
  #6
Trained
Now looked at pics - it would be easier for us if they were inserted in the thread BTW. Aside from being overgrown & flared, they don't look too bad at all. Frogs look thrushy, but hard to tell details from blurry pics too.
     
    03-20-2012, 10:08 AM
  #7
Yearling
I understand what everyone is saying about letting the farrier do their job, and normally that's what I do. I was trying to leave out the complicated situation regarding the farrier. W/O writing a novel, I will do my best to explain what is going on.

The horse is not at my barn (I'm out of room), she is kept at another barn. I don't pay board (I do pay for supplements, shavings, vet & farrier, & I take care of her stall). Regardless of what I pay for, the BO considers the horse partly hers. I acquired the horse for free as a favor to a friend of the BO. As a result of this complicated arrangement, the BO feels I don't have a say in when / who does vet & farrier. The farrier that I use & trust is not allowed on the BO's property (another long story), nor will she allow anyone else besides her current farrier to work on any of the horses. Her current farrier, to give him credit, is quite good at corrective/reconstructive work. However, during the last trim, I was not impressed by his work on barefeet. I know how a hoof should look, and that's what I asked to have done. It was not, I was told by the farrier that it would not be possible to take her flare down, which I think is BS.

I was trying to get an objective opinion on what others feel is necessary, since admittedly I only know what an ideal hoof should look like, and not a lot past that. The ferrier's that I have always used in the past, achieved that. Or maybe I should say that over 20 yrs of doing this with many, many horses the trims have ALWAYS looked the same (with only tiny variations per horse) at the end. Even horses with trouble feet. I know that is no excuse for my lack of knowledge in the area, but that isn't the issue right now.

Loosie: I'm sorry the pics are at times blurry. I did the best I could. And I'm still trying to figure how to insert the pics in threads, everytime I try I always mess something up, and it doesn't do what I want it to (I hate computers!!)

And yes, I would LOVE to get her on a better schedule!! There's a lot more involved in the whole situtation then I mentioned, so if you want to yell at me for this whole messed up arrangement, please just PM me. I'm trying to my best to make the best out of an ackward arrangement.

So I wrote a novel any way. Sorry guys:( I just wanted outside opinions that I was on the right track.
     
    03-20-2012, 11:12 AM
  #8
Foal
Hi Im a farrier and completely agree with Loosie. You need to have regular visits from your Farrier, but be forwarned, just because someone says their a farrier doesnt mean they know what their doing. Check around and find out from word of mouth who is good before just getting anyone. I can tell you that you may get a farrier out once but if it looks like you may not get on a schedule with him he may not come back. I am like that as well because if Im working on a hoof issue and the customer wont make their regular appointments I will not be their Farrier anymore. Their horses feet is a reflection on me. You may end up going through a few farriers before you find one that is right for your horse but once you find one that is good---KEEP THEM!! Keep in mind too that once your horse goes a while without a trim, you may not get the picture perfect hoof the first time the farrier comes out. Its a process and its a slow one sometimes. The farrier will have to judge how much your hooves grow over a period of 6 weeks, determine what angles will be correct for the horse, and what methods they will use to get your horses feet right again and it can't be one with just one visit.
     
    03-20-2012, 11:25 AM
  #9
mls
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by busysmurf    

I was trying to get an objective opinion on what others feel is necessary,


And yes, I would LOVE to get her on a better schedule!! There's a lot more involved in the whole situtation then I mentioned, so if you want to yell at me for this whole messed up arrangement, please just PM me. I'm trying to my best to make the best out of an ackward arrangement.

So I wrote a novel any way. Sorry guys:( I just wanted outside opinions that I was on the right track.
You are contradicting yourself.

It's impossible to ask for advice yet tell folks you can't change the situation.

Bottom line - the horse needs a better schedule. Period.
     
    03-20-2012, 12:44 PM
  #10
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by mls    
You are contradicting yourself.

It's impossible to ask for advice yet tell folks you can't change the situation.

Bottom line - the horse needs a better schedule. Period.
At this time, I am not in the position to change the schedule. 3 months btwn a trim in winter is pretty standard in my experience. BUT I am hopefully in the position to make firmer demands on what should be done, thus asking for the opinions to make sure that my demands are realistic since I am not a professional farrier. As I stated, the farrier being used is quite good at corrective/reconstructive shoing/work. I am not so convinced in barefeet trimming, as evident by him giving me what I believe is a BS excuse for leaving flares on her feet. I haven't heard of anyone doing that before, thus I am trying to make sure I am not missing something. I think that had the flares been taken care of properly at the end of Nov. This whole post would be a non-issue. But I am asking if anyone is seeing something that I am missing since I AM NOT a professional farrier.

Also as far as a schedule, since this is a newer horse, I haven't yet learned all her natural schedules. The farrier schedule at the barn is out of my hands, my best hope that she doesn't get to long between trims in the future is that it is done properly in the first place.

I have a farrier that I trust & swear by that does the horses at my place. However, he is not allowed on the BO's property because he didn't do things the way the BO wanted, he did them the way he felt would be best for the horse. They disagreed, so not only does he refuse to go there, BO won't let him there.

I'm not trying to be difficult or ask for the impossible. I am simply asking for opinions (since I am not a professional farrier, and I have reservations about the one that is being used) so I can be confidant that I am doing everything that I can to make the best decision for a horse in a difficult and complicated situation.
     

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