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post #21 of 44 Old 07-10-2012, 05:15 PM
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what makes frogs grow faster

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Lots of flies and mosquitoes, and some nice lilypads

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Not just me then ..... I saw this and first thought in my head was YUK who wants really big frogs?
Must be the heat
Will come back when I've cooled down lol
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I'd be interested to see pics of the heels with the camera placed on the ground directly behind the hoof. A frog that does not come in contact with the ground will not get the necessary stimulation to keep it healthy.

That being said, you have a chicken and egg thing going there. I wouldn't put those frogs in touch with the ground until they are healthy. In their current state, I'm sure they hurt him and he'll be walking around on his toes which you don't want.

I've had good success scrubbing with Dawn and then applying Tomorrow Dry Cow every other day into every crevice you can get it into. Stuff cotton balls into the crack to keep air flow going. Thrush thrives without air, so try to keep it open.

Once they are healthy, assuming the horse's hoove can accomodate it, have the frogs just touching the ground when the horse is standing would go a long way toward keeping them healthy.
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Not just me then ..... I saw this and first thought in my head was YUK who wants really big frogs?
Must be the heat
Will come back when I've cooled down lol
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I agree.....
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post #25 of 44 Old 07-10-2012, 09:12 PM Thread Starter
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thank you for the advice..... I started a whole new plan today... first I really scrubbed them out with dawn antibacterial dish soap...surprisingly they were pretty clean still from last night...all the bubbles were white, so that was good... then I soaked his feet in the lysol and water...I did 50/50 (I didn't see your msg til now) but he stood there a good 15 mins on his fronts...backs didn't go so well...but the indent of the mat was holding a puddle under his backs so I just kept pouring the soak on the mat... I'm afraid it definitely wasn't as effective as the fronts...will do it again tomorrow.... after the soak, I sprayed his feet and again the mat with straight vinegar... then I used the dry cow on his frogs...it was very easy to insert the little tip into all the holes and crevices... then I wrapped his feet with baby diapers.... I taped the first one on with vet wrap and then thought maybe that would hold too much moisture? So I just used the diaper tabs on the other 3...see pics!!!! After I let me loose one fell right off...it was funny, he just stopped and looked at it, then me, like..."mom, help..." wish I had a video camera!!! Well, I guess he knows I am trying to help him.... he was so good for the whole process.... I put the diaper back on and when I went inside a little while ago all four are still on..... I hope all this helps him.... and I do have a mineral block and salt block in the pasture by their water tub.... again, thanks for all of the advice...I will keep you all posted on our progress....
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I use a spray bottle with a mixture of water and vinager. It works great to prevent and treat thrush. But it can burn at frist just like anything you put on this guy right now. He looks painful.
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Lots of flies and mosquitoes, and some nice lilypads

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For those ?'s about the above, think of frogs as in "r'bit, r'bit" hoppity-hop
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ljaz -- what size diaper does he wear? My mare wears a 1.

When I put diapers on hooves, I use duct tape. The diaper will absorb lots of moisture. My mare's hoof was so nice and dry when I had to do that, it was great!

Not sure that you will need the vinegar with the cream... As long as there isn't any funny reaction going on between the two, it should be fine. I've never tried to use both. What happens if you put the vinegar and the cream in a little glass dish? Any reaction?

I look forward to hearing and seeing how things are going after about 10 days of your new routine. When's the next farrier visit? Maybe you posted that already; sorry if I missed that info.
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I use a spray bottle with a mixture of water and vinager. It works great to prevent and treat thrush. But it can burn at frist just like anything you put on this guy right now. He looks painful.
believe it or not, he is not acting sore at all... last night he was running and bucking and playing for awhile... and with everything I did to him earlier today he never even pulled a foot away from me while I was working on him... I only had a problem with his back feet because he kept spilling the buckets!
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ljaz -- what size diaper does he wear? My mare wears a 1.

When I put diapers on hooves, I use duct tape. The diaper will absorb lots of moisture. My mare's hoof was so nice and dry when I had to do that, it was great!

Not sure that you will need the vinegar with the cream... As long as there isn't any funny reaction going on between the two, it should be fine. I've never tried to use both. What happens if you put the vinegar and the cream in a little glass dish? Any reaction?

I look forward to hearing and seeing how things are going after about 10 days of your new routine. When's the next farrier visit? Maybe you posted that already; sorry if I missed that info.
that's funny...size 1!!! I bought 12 to 18 lbs after much dilemma at walmart today...I haven't had to purchase diapers in a very long time....
Anyway, they do fit pretty well...I was just scared to use tape until I asked someone...I didn't want to trap too much moisture... I just mixed some of that cream and vinegar on my hand...nothing.... do you know if I should have waited til maybe am? When hooves would be really dry to put the dry cow in the cracks and holes? They were kind of dried, but hard to say about the cracks and holes inside??? And waiting til am, there would no doubt be dirt again, so???? Keeping horse feet clean is VERY hard to do....... do you think I will see some improvement in as little as 10 days? That would be great....I will take some more pics in 10 days to post his progress... is it enough to do this routine once a day? And the farrier will be back aug 17... I will take pics the day before and then after....
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