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    02-14-2014, 12:06 AM
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Foal
White line treatments with shoes?

Hi,
My farrier recently told me my gelding had white line disease in all four feet, the hind left being the worst. He was able to dig most of it away but wants me to start spraying them with a mixture of water and bleach. I'm quite hesitant about using bleach as it is so caustic.

I have been looking into White Lightning and Clean Trax but it seems they only work on bare-footed horses. My guy has shoes on the front and is too ouchy without them.

Anyone have suggestions on what to use? Someone had said dry cow cream but I thought it was only used for thrush?

I really want to get after this before it gets worse!

Thanks!
     
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    02-14-2014, 10:45 AM
  #2
Yearling
Water and bleach is the old timer's way. The place I'm at, the BO has a few bottles of the mixture standing at the wash rack. Cheap and works. Just about anything you use on hooves to kill super fungus and bacteria is going to be somewhat caustic to be strong enough to kill the bugs. I did not hesitate using it on my horse. I like using what works.
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    02-14-2014, 05:08 PM
  #3
Foal
Good luck.

Treatment Examples

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We have seen cases of hoof “abscesses” which were insidious and chronic, which actually represented extension of white line infection from the caudal frog/horn junctions. Seeding of infection from infected frogs to other parts of the foot is a frequent and problematic complication of frog disease, and can obscure the primary problem.

In Fig. 52 Thrush Stop is applied with a small paint brush to distribute evenly across the frog and white line.


Fig. 54 shows how 3000 ml IV bags make excellent re-useable soaking boots for most horses. Using duct tape, we make boots out of them which allows for easy and on and off and we label them for each horse and foo


Fig. 58 shows all 4 feet in boots, and tied with bailing twine. One can also use duct tape. On smooth surfaces, the horse can walk around safely in those boots. You even can turn him out in them, but they do wear on abrasive footing. Extra layers of duct tape on the sole helps to prevent that.


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Fig. 26 The decay in the caudal collateral grooves communicates through the quarters with the white lines, which are also diseased.
Fig. 33 Once these frogs were treated, the white line disease resolved and the horse trotted happily on paved roads.

Health and Disease of the Equine Frog


We are currently evaluating the efficacy of Clean Trax with seven horses who have been treated assiduously with the products mentioned above. Although their frogs have responded well, therapy and prophylactic care is time intensive. Also, white line disease and thin soles in some of the horses have not been resolved and in two cases, have worsened. Hoof trim has been evaluated by multiple experts, and assessed radiographically. Improper trim cannot be blamed for these problems. None of the horses have foundered, and all have unlimited exercise on variable terrain including 4”-6” deep pea gravel in habitual “hangout” areas. In addition, all but the yearling are in full dressage training, including trail rides.
     
    02-14-2014, 06:50 PM
  #4
Foal
Thank you for the information! I managed to get my hands on some oxine today, and I do have no thrush already.

I think I am going to go ahead and start spraying with a diluted bleach mix daily as well. I don't want to mess around with this stuff.

Reading on the internet has me scared and bummed about the whole situation. Anyone have a success story they would like to share about white line disease to give me some hope?
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    02-14-2014, 07:15 PM
  #5
Yearling
Oxine needs to be activated with citrate. Otherwise , you're not really killing anything.

My mule had it and my horse had it. I used 1/2 bleach every other day and rotated with durasole.

There's also this stuff called Silvastrol which is really good stuff too.
     
    02-14-2014, 07:18 PM
  #6
Foal
I picked up some vinegar to activate it with. I'm going to look into the silvastrol it seems promising too. Thanks!
     
    02-15-2014, 01:27 AM
  #7
Trained
If yor worried about caustic, stay away from most commercial thrush/WLD treatments then. But seriously I don't think you have to worry if its not on live tissue. The stronger the better, esp if you need to compromise & stay shod. 'Milder' treatments such as dilute bleach, ACV etc will work sometimes, depending on the type of bugs causing the infection.

Re tender feet, if hooves are unhealthy I think they're generally better unshod, but you may need to pad/boot if he's sore. I'm also betting that there are mechanical issues which are stretching the laminae & allowing infection.
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    02-15-2014, 02:39 AM
  #8
Foal
That makes sense! If you were to come at it aggressively what would you use?

Unfortunately he has to stay shod, I can't seem to find boots for him that will stay on and not rub. We have been through about 3 brands so far. My farrier is hoping by summer we will have most of the structural issues in his feet corrected and he can start going barefoot again. :(

Thanks for your help!!
     
    02-18-2014, 03:18 PM
  #9
Foal
Vicks Vaporub. My gelding had it and this got it under control. Farrier put some on a cotton ball and squeezed under the shoe.
     
    02-18-2014, 04:50 PM
  #10
Trained
What type boots have you tried? What's his hoof confo? Pics? Easyboot Epics are good at staying on even if hoof confos are a bit compromised, and being 'low profile' there's nothing really to rub.
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