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  • Shrinking frog front hoof
  • Building sole depth in hoof

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    09-13-2012, 07:34 PM
  #1
Trained
This is why I hate shoes!!

Ugh...argh...and headdesk. So, as many of you know, I attempted to take my horse shoeless over the past 6 months. It went relatively well, but once the ground became rock hard due to the dry summer, there was just no way around throwing front shoes on to get through the rest of the show season. There is still about 1/3 of front foot that has to grow out, so logic tells me what harm can shoes do since they will be going on the unwanted part of the hoof anyway. I put them on for 6 weeks, let them fall off and continue on with barefoot over the winter and revisit at the start of next show season. I figure, "what harm can 6 weeks do?" IDIOT!!!!!

I am only 3 weeks in and the heel on his club foot is already contracting, the frog is shrinking, the toe is shooting forward taking the sole along with it, and there's not a **** thing I can do about it!!! I have to continue with the shoes since we have a hunter pace next week and a show the following week. The real "*itch" of it is, this is work from a good farrier. The job looks very nice, but the frog simply is not on the ground and it's all quickly going to hell as a result.

I really wish this horse could go barefoot. But after 6 months, he's still 5mm short of comfortable sole depth on his fronts. I can't show in boots, and it's not like they stay on anyway. I am crossing my fingers that the depth will come once the entire new hoof has grown in, but this setback happening in such a short amount of time really stinks. I spent 6 months getting the frog from the club foot touching the ground. It was finally looking healthy when I had to put the shoes on. I'm not looking for any advice...just needed to rant a bit. Ironically he is very happy in his shoes and moving beautifully.
     
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    09-13-2012, 09:09 PM
  #2
Yearling
Have you considered using a pour in pad to keep up the stimulation? That is what I'd do. I'd also use rubber shoes instead of metal ones that allow for vertical flexion as well as horizontal flexion. Bus feet would likely come out of the shoes.better than they went in. Just because he needs more protection doesn't mean you have to regress.
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    09-13-2012, 09:17 PM
  #3
Trained
Pour ins, or a heart bar pad, or a heartbar shoe are things to talk to you vet and farrier about. All are going to help stimulate the frog. In not wet weather my farrier also has me not pick my horse's feet and it helps a lot in keeping the frogs stimulated. We are trying a heart bar pad w/ pour in this next trim to get the high foot to grow a bit more frog - I can take pictures!
Straight shoes, I agree, can do very little for a horse, but using a complete farrier's kit to shoe your horse in a completely custom way can be as good as barefoot. It's unfortunate that I need shoes at the level of competition I am doing, but really excellent, innovative farrier work is as good or better than barefoot for the competition horse, IMO.
     
    09-13-2012, 09:30 PM
  #4
Trained
Trinity, thanks for the suggestion. I have the vettec dispenser, so I could do a pour in pad for the remainder of this shoeing cycle. I'm not really sold on the rubber shoe idea simply because rubber and galloping/jumping on wet grass seems about as great a pair as a toaster and a bathtub.

Anebel, you know better than most how important it is to have a properly balanced horse. Just that 2 degree difference of getting his low heel up to the proper balance has improved his dressage ten-fold. I will ask my farrier about a heartbar pad or shoe next time around.

Thanks for the support. It really is messing with my head every time I look at that foot.
     
    09-13-2012, 09:50 PM
  #5
Trained
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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
Trinity, thanks for the suggestion. I have the vettec dispenser, so I could do a pour in pad for the remainder of this shoeing cycle. I'm not really sold on the rubber shoe idea simply because rubber and galloping/jumping on wet grass seems about as great a pair as a toaster and a bathtub.

Anebel, you know better than most how important it is to have a properly balanced horse. Just that 2 degree difference of getting his low heel up to the proper balance has improved his dressage ten-fold. I will ask my farrier about a heartbar pad or shoe next time around.

Thanks for the support. It really is messing with my head every time I look at that foot.
Lol yeah ask your farrier with a hundred dollar bill in your hand HAR HAR no wonder mine goes on vacation so darn much!!!
I'm still ready to lob the hooves off and get bionic ones and it's been 4 years of management!!! Glad I finally have a farrier with his head screwed on and who is literate! So nice to show up the the an appointment to an "I was reading this article and I think we should try this or that, depending on what your vet thinks".
Good luck!!
     
    09-14-2012, 12:36 AM
  #6
Yearling
Epona's can be studded although they are not as flexible as Id like. My TB evented in them.
     
    09-14-2012, 08:02 PM
  #7
Trained
How about a half moon shoe?
I've seen that a lot in Standardbreds who should be barefoot but would consume too much horn working. That way his heels would still be able to expand but the toe would be protected.
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    09-14-2012, 11:43 PM
  #8
Super Moderator
Doesn't that mean that the horse bears all the weight on a very small surface area; the only half shod hoof wall ?
     
    09-15-2012, 12:00 AM
  #9
Trained
No, it doesn't. The shoe is very thin and tapered towards the ends. It's sole purpose is to protect the toe from too much wear. So the weight bearing surface is the same as a bare hoof or a shoe.
I'll try to find a pic
     
    09-15-2012, 12:03 AM
  #10
Super Moderator
I see. But doesn't that lift the toe and drop the heel and make a pretty hefty change in the way the hoof sits on the ground, I mean the angle?
     

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