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    09-15-2012, 01:07 AM
You....or better, the farrier, can level that with trimming a bit more on the toe, where the shoe will. Be and less off the sides. These shoes are only about 2 mm thick.
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    09-15-2012, 01:28 AM
I see.

Zulu had to be shod. He'd been barefoot all year, but when the ground dried up, he got too ouchy to tolerate it. He is much happier now.
But, I don't know half of what you know about doing barefoot life. I just thought I'd mention that we also had to give him shoes to make it through the dry time. Hope he can return to barefoot all around in Nov. Or Dec.
    09-15-2012, 01:28 AM
Hope this will work:
    09-15-2012, 06:24 PM
While I like the concept of the half moon shoe, my horse is a high/low. The heel on his low foot not only needs support, but also a wedge pad under the heel to keep the bones in alignment. Any chance they make a full moon shoe? That way I could put the full one on the low foot and half one on the club. Regardless, I'll be happy when the season is over, and I can pull the **** things off again.
    09-15-2012, 07:28 PM
I'd take the pic and show it to the farrier and see what he thinks. He can make a half moon shoe quickly and get an eggbar or closed round shoe im the other foot. Actually, I wouldn't try to correct too much on these feet. The bone structures are all in place now, changing angles might cause all kinds of problems.
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    09-15-2012, 07:33 PM
Recent xrays confirm the low foot is out of alignment in it's barefoot form, hence the pad. I will ask him about the shoes. I'm not trying to fix anything. At age 10, a club is a club. I just don't want what was starting to look like a nice foot shrink back into crap shape just because of a shoe.
    09-15-2012, 07:39 PM
Out of alignement in its barefoot form....hmmmmm you means P1, 2 and 3 are not aligned properly, P3 pointing up?
Don't know of course how your farrier trims, but the toe should be reduced and well rounded, breakover set back where it belongs so the sound hoof can grow out. Pics would help, tho, if that's possible
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    09-15-2012, 07:46 PM
Going back to your original post....there might be a shoe-less solution after all. Google "hoof cast". Its a cast bandage, applied to the foot which protects but doesn't hinder Vanessa Hoff capsule movement. Its like vetrap who gets hard....look it up
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    09-15-2012, 07:47 PM
This phone....sorry for the typo...any hoof capsule I meant...Vanessa has no business here
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    09-15-2012, 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
Out of alignement in its barefoot form....hmmmmm you means P1, 2 and 3 are not aligned properly, P3 pointing up?
Don't know of course how your farrier trims, but the toe should be reduced and well rounded, breakover set back where it belongs so the sound hoof can grow out. Pics would help, tho, if that's possible
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You are definitely relatively new to the forum! Anyone who has read my numerous posts on my barefoot journey knows that I have went through 7 farriers who all claimed to be the best, but not one of them could trim a horse for *hit. It's how my horse ended up barefoot. I just plain gave up trying to find a good farrier. I know where the breakover should be, and I have xrays to confirm my trimming has been accurate over the past 6 months, but getting a farrier to actually take your information under advisement is an entirely different manner. I told this guy EVERYTHING I wanted done, where the breakover should be, toe length, heel height. I had the feet mapped out like AAA. Did he listen to me? Of course not. Why the hell would a farrier listen to a client?? They already know everything there is to know. Why would that stupid woman who has owned her horse for 5 years and knows everything about him know how to trim him??? Are you beginning to get a picture of my experience with farriers?

As for the low foot and the boney column, P3 is in good position, but it's attachment to P2 is slightly broken back. The bones are actually touching at the upper end and will eventually cause problems long term if not addressed. PA is currently 0. This being an eventer, the vet would like it to be a slightly positive number to compensate for jumping which I agree with. I tried for 6 months to get foot to grow heel while it was bare. We kept the toe short and kept dragging the heel back. Every time it would just grow back in and run forward resulting in the same relative height. I plan to take another whack at it once the shoes are off, but for now I'm stuck. I'll see if I can dig up some pics to show you where his feet were right before the shoes.

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