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    09-15-2012, 08:06 PM
  #21
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Here's a pic of the low foot. See how the bones could benefit from just a little more heel? I has these taken just to see how we were doing in terms of barefoot trimming. The newer hoof is only about 1/2 grown in. You can see it right where the white line starts to stretch a little.
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    09-15-2012, 08:09 PM
  #22
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I get it, don't worry
I usually don't read too much let alone say something about hooves here because they're others who do a great job already.
Your problems with Farriers.....been there, done that, got the T-shirt. I did find one who would listen, discuss and ask if he was doing it right. But, that was in Italy and maybe only because im German and he us married to a German
Don't know what you are using for reference for trimming, tho. Im pretty pleased with barefoothorse.com. We, this farrier and I, got my friend's mare with the same problem, just on her hinds, right again.
But look into this hoof cast. That might eliminate the need for a farrier and save you from freaking out every summer
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    09-15-2012, 08:13 PM
  #23
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Funny you mention being German. Maybe that's it! I'm half German and thick as they come. I don't think it's well received by men. Then again, I don't give a rats @ss!

I have looked into hoof cast, but heard they are not good for horses in humid climates. Something about the humidity lets the bad bugs build up in the part that holds the show onto the hoof. Have you heard anything along those lines?
     
    09-15-2012, 08:19 PM
  #24
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Does he have any heel pain?
IMO wedges don't help, optically maybe, but the tender heel gets crushed easily.
If it gets better with being barefoot all you would need is protection for the extra dry summer months.
For the club and bad frog/contracted heel, there are shoes who spread the foot a bit at the heels, by being a bit thicker and tapered. Last time I saw them was a number of years ago, not sure of anybody still knows about them, tho
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    09-15-2012, 08:24 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
Funny you mention being German. Maybe that's it! I'm half German and thick as they come. I don't think it's well received by men. Then again, I don't give a rats @ss!

I have looked into hoof cast, but heard they are not good for horses in humid climates. Something about the humidity lets the bad bugs build up in the part that holds the show onto the hoof. Have you heard anything along those lines?
That must be it, lol...now imagine the typical Italian macho thing on top of it.....

Don't know about moisture, but you said you needed protection only when the ground gets too hard. Good thing about this cast is, you can do it yourself, when needed and take it off when possible.
Ill see if I can find the link
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    09-15-2012, 08:30 PM
  #26
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The Natural Farrier
Check out the how to videos. The cast is called Equisocks
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    09-15-2012, 08:30 PM
  #27
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Nope, no heel pain. He lands beautifully heel first on that foot. The heel just seems to grow forward simply by being alongside a club foot. I only agreed with raising the heel when I saw the xrays which showed P3 and P2 actually touching in that one spot. It looks like raising the heel a tad would eliminate that contact. He's only 10. Bone contact is arthritis waiting to happen.

Like I said before, I have no plans to attempt to fix the club. It was starting to look very nice and actually somewhat round before we put that darn shoe on. Here's a pic of his club foot 3 weeks ago. I refuse to take a pic now since it would make me cry and bang my head on the desk again. It's got a big honkin' crack in it and shrinkng like an old man.
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    09-15-2012, 08:58 PM
  #28
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I was told by an old time farrier, one who apprenticed for three years to become a journeyman, did five years as JM then became a master, that two different front feet comes from grazing in the same position, so the forward foot grows long toe low heel, the backward one becomes somewhat clubby. Can and should be corrected from foal age on, but most breeders don't give a darn.
I've seen attempts to fix it on an adult horse...very ugly outcome. Horse is pasture pet and lame.
You did right in rasping the heel a bit to help spread the frog. Should be done also on the flat one, since an underrun heel actually grows forward instead of down. Lots of Farriers don't know that and don't trim the heel "because it's too low already".
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    09-15-2012, 09:05 PM
  #29
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
You did right in rasping the heel a bit to help spread the frog. Should be done also on the flat one, since an underrun heel actually grows forward instead of down. Lots of Farriers don't know that and don't trim the heel "because it's too low already".
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We have been doing that on the low foot too. It's just, as soon as it grows in again to where I'd like it height-wise, it runs forward. I drag it back, it laughs at me and grows forward. I've been relunctant to bring the toe back more in the past, but now that I have the xrays, I'm going to take it back a more once the shoes are off.
     
    09-15-2012, 09:23 PM
  #30
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An indicator where the tip of P3 is is the new growth coming down from the coronary. If you follow that angle and lengthen it downward you know where your breakover should he....about an inch, maybe a bit less, forward. Then nice mustang roll and maybe even away with the white line, as described on the above mentioned website "barefoothorse", under "white line strategy". I found that to be very helpful and logical.
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