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post #11 of 18 Old 06-14-2012, 07:55 PM
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Diagnosis

Early diagnosis is essential to effective treatment. However, early outward signs may be fairly non-specific. Careful physical examination typically is diagnostic, but radiographs are also very useful.

Signs
.Increased temperature of the wall, sole and/or coronary band of the foot.
.A pounding pulse in the digital palmar artery. (The pulse is very faint or undetectable in a cold horse, readily evident after hard exercise.)
.Anxiety
.Visible trembling
.Increased vital signs and body temperature
.Sweating
.Flared Nostrils
.Walking very tenderly, as if walking on egg shells
.Repeated "easing" of affected feet
.Lameness
.The horse standing in a "founder stance" (the horse will attempt to decrease the load on the affected feet). If it has laminitis in the front hooves, it will bring its hindlegs underneath its body and put its forelegs out in front called "pointing"
.Tendency to lie down, whenever possible or, if extreme, to remain lying down.
I think they mean late or acute symptoms there. Early symptoms can be as explained here... Natural Horse World Laminitis http://www.wildabouthooves.com.au/Ma...acts%20web.pdf

Anyway OP, sounds like she does need the vet & without further info, who knows what the prob is.
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I don't see any difference in what is listed as early stages in my quote or in what you gave me.

I am just saying that this same thing happened to a friend's mare, and this is what happened first, then she foundered and almost went permanently lame.
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I don't see any difference in what is listed as early stages in my quote or in what you gave me.
You must have read the wrong bit. It also has 'late clinical signs' which are more like your list. Also worth mentioning horses can have all or few of these symptoms - early signs can be as little as rings on the feet or separation of the 'white line', 'ouchy' on hard ground, reluctant to pick up a foot...
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Here are some pictures of the front feet (I personally thought she was off in the front, but the trainer said back and I'm not sure my opinion is better than hers.)



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I can't see any of the images :(

And also; I was just quoting a website, it doesn't matter whether the signs are early or late, the owner needs to have her horse checked out soon if there is heat coming from the hoof, no matter other symptoms or the cause.
In my opinion, I think it is warning signs of Laminitis, and I was just quoting a reference because some of the symptoms listed are similar, yet it could be something completely opposite, like a bacterial infection.
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And also; I was just quoting a website, it doesn't matter whether the signs are early or late, the owner needs to have her horse checked
Yep, gathered that. I was just pointing out they are the acute or advanced symptoms, so it pays to know what the early ones are, so hopefully we can avoid it even getting to that severe clinical stage. Yes, it's definitely valuable knowledge either way, as too many horses suffer this disease in owner's ignorance. At any rate, I'm guessing laminitis isn't the reason for one back hoof/leg to be lame.
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Laminitis, early or late, usually presents in BOTH front feet and as reluctance to move, tenderness, "ouchiness" or short stridedness. It does not usually present with unilateral heat or lameness. A finding of heat in ONE foot, if the finding is consistent, simply means something is causing inflammatioin. An abcess is a much better fit with the symptoms given.

I am not quoting a website, the above is based on my experience with horses with laminitis.

All overweight horses are not laminitic, and there is a wide variance in the amount of over weight individual horses can tolerate before becoming laminitic.

There's the added detail that the horse has a history of hind end lameness, and an experienced observer thinks the lameness may originate in the hind.

So I would caution posters against attempting to diagnose this horse over the internet by the owner's description..

However, I will say the symptoms do require immediate attention. If you can get the farrier out quickly, do so. See if he also finds heat in the one hoof. Have the shoe pulled and have him look for an abscess. Farriers are often very good at spotting lamenesses, so I would also job the horse for the farrier and get his opinion. Based on the farrier's assessment, decide whether to involve the vet.

Good luck, and do post back and let us know the outcome.
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I am not quoting a website, the above is based on my experience with horses with laminitis.
Haha! Yeah, unfortunately a heap of experience too there, as a hoof care practitioner, but I find it easier to give links when I find ones with good info, than write it all out again myself!

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So I would caution posters against attempting to diagnose this horse over the internet by the owner's description..
...& OP to take advice blindly, whether apparent diagnosis or otherwise - remember this is the internet - you can be given all sorts of unverified advice, based usually on only basic information provided, not to mention differences of perceptions/experiences, so by all means consider everything people tell you, but remember it's only food for thought.
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