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        07-23-2014, 06:21 PM
    I second the xrays. Then you can know just what you are up against.
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        07-23-2014, 07:50 PM
    few more pics

    I got a few more pictures this evening. She let me finish picking her hooves. Again this is the front right as it seems to be the worse, in terms of the large separation and broken toe tip. Also one of her standing in the dry lot. The small amount of grass that is in the picture is the only grass she can get to. She was in a lot that had more of that grass, but still mostly a dry lot, but when she first started having lameness issues a few months ago we moved her to the current lot.
    Based on feedback I am planning on discussing this plan with the owner:
    • start treating with white lightening tomorrow
    • discuss my serious concerns with the farrier on tuesday and let him know that what we are currently doing is not enough
    • make a vet appointment and fundraise for xrays in the meantime
    • continue to pick her feet daily, possibly twice daily and try to get everyone else in the barn to make the same attempts.
    • keep her stalled during the day with a nibblenet. We already bed our stalls with only shavings. She will be let out in the dry lot at night as she will be very unhappy stalled and may actually pace and move around more if confined.

    Thanks for everyones help and support!
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        07-23-2014, 07:50 PM
    Green Broke
    I third the x-rays. They will show so much in terms of inner hoof health. They will probably cost you around 80 dollars.
        07-23-2014, 07:58 PM
    I know xrays don't cost a whole lot...it's just the farm call on top of that and the $6,000 bill we already have and the epm horse that we just took in... you know all the fun of running a rescue!!! Totally worth it though
        07-23-2014, 08:17 PM
    Green Broke
    I have what may (hopefully!) be an excellent piece to throw out there in this case -
    My QH suffered horribly last fall from a stone bruise/abscess/turned laminitis... she was in pain. I soaked her fronts in Epsom salt 2x's / day, and she had Bute 2x's/day to begin. Then the Vet said it's time... I must order SoftRide therapeutic boots for her - not only for pain, but recovery.
    They were expensive, but, oh my gosh!!!!! Her relief from pain was immediate, and her recovery sped up immediately. This company hears from horse owners every day in a panic with founder/laminitis, and they ship out the same day as ordered. They cared. It was like a miracle, and seeing my beloved horse comfortable while her hooves healed was worth every penny. Maybe give them a try :)
        07-24-2014, 07:32 PM
    They are in VERY poor shape. The reason her sole is bulging out like that is because she has so much retained sole.
    You and greenhaven are both incorrect in this case. There is every indication that there is NO false sole and in act the sole that is present may be is prolapsed. It is a FOUNDERED foot where the bone has dropped and pushed the sole down with it. Lateral view X-rays would conform this.

    The KEY to telling whether there is false sole or NOT is the depth around the frog apex. In this case, it is NOT deep.

    That is the TRUE sole we are looking at and if someone decided they would try to remove it, thinking this was false sole they may just kill this donk.

    The laminae in the dorsal hoof wall has been seriously compromised and the repeated abscessing may just be dead torn tissues turning to serum and finding a way out. If the leakage from the abscesses is clearish, reddish brown and doesn't smell as bad as pus, it is probably serum, it is extremely common in chronic founder. Unfortunately everything that could help the most would require the cooperation of the donkey for the farrier. So the best you can probably do at this point is keep the heels trimmed back so the frog can help support the bone, and try to keep rasping at the front hoof wall to keep leverage off the toe .

    And of course really look at thw total diet and remove any hidden sources of carbohydrates, Purina products in general tend to be way higher in carbs than they should so I would switch to a guaranteed low starch feed , WEIGH the grass hay to limit its intake to minimum maintanance ,and maybe try adding a magnesium chromium supplement like Quiessence, and some cinnamon. Dietary changes and supplements designed for metabolic issues are a "cant hurt" approach and could help a lot. .
        07-24-2014, 07:37 PM
    And this is the foot I am talking about having no false sole. The coffin bone MIGHT be right under the sole we see here.
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        07-24-2014, 08:29 PM
    Green Broke
    Thanks for clearing that up, Patty! I knew the sole had to be like that for a reason. In the future, I'll definitely look at the depth of sole around the frog apex before making a judgement.
        07-24-2014, 10:26 PM
    Good thing we were also touting the xrays to know exactly what she is up against. A prolapsed sole does not sound like fun.

    I hope you can get some help for her.
        07-24-2014, 10:47 PM
    Green Broke
    Patty, what is the purpose of cinnamon.. I haven't heard that one yet?

    burron, chronic laminitis, seedytoe?, sole seperation

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