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        01-25-2013, 01:47 AM
      #11
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by MsDanny    
    And I'm sorry for not having read your beautiful post about how to take good hoof pictures "Loosie"
    Just to clarify, the link for hoof pix is not my site, just think it's a good one for advice on pics & not saying I necessarily agree with or advocate everything on the site.

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    Not all of them will do a draft horse.
    Dunno why personally - they may be heavier but they're usually more likely to be easygoing & calm IME... & they're big enough to be more upright underneath so better for my back! Gimme one of them any day compared to an overfed warmblood or an undermannered cob!
         
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        01-25-2013, 11:27 AM
      #12
    Yearling
    An ill mannered draft horse is a nightmare. Plus they are a good bit harder on your tools and hands just in general. Whoever nips those feet better have a grip of steel lol. I usually have to employ help to close the nippers on walls like that.
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        01-25-2013, 02:21 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Can you have your farrier evaluate the horse for you? It's not uncommon for a buyer to have a vet check and/or farrier examine a horse before buying, so if you had your own farrier come out, he could explain what is going on and how he feels the horse will shape up. My farrier will look at any horse I want to buy as long as it is in a reasonable distance. If not, I would find a reputable farrier in the area (a little research goes a long way) and ask them to see the horse. The owner cannot be offended by you having a farrier come look at him ... and if he IS offended, BIG RED FLAG. Anyone who gets defensive about the horse they are selling is not confident in the horse.
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        01-25-2013, 06:25 PM
      #14
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Trinity3205    
    An ill mannered draft horse is a nightmare.
    Yes, but I don't trim nightmares, of any breed If the horse isn't well enough trained or bad mannered, I'm certainly willing to put in some time with it, but I'm also not afraid of telling an owner a horse needs more training. It's just not worth the risk... & come to think of it, the last horse I couldn't finish(did fronts but he was very 'handy' with backs) was a 4yo Percheron... I just find that 'cold bloods' are generally easier to deal with. There have been 4 horses in the last year I had to walk away from without finishing the job & the others were warmbloods.

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    I usually have to employ help to close the nippers on walls like that.
    I have 'drafty nips' for those horses - longer handles than my normal ones, so more leverage. Also if you don't attempt full blade-width cuts, but set the nips for each cut only half way from last cut. Yes, I do also have a different/wider rasp too...
         
        01-25-2013, 06:32 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Drafts, that pointed toe is showing lack of hoof care. It will take a few months to get that corrected, probably around 5-6 trims. Quarter cracks may appear until the hoof gets shaped correct. Our Belgian would get feet shaped that way if he went to long between trims, or got a bad trim . Make sure the toes are rounded are squared with the file. Looks like a nice horse. I miss the Big guy.
    He had to be euthed due to liver failure. ( OH and make sure there is not puffy legs on them.. specially the hind legs, it is lymph problem that seems to be hereditary, even though many breeders say it is not.
         
        01-25-2013, 06:37 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    The problems with had with farriers and our drafts and draft mixes is.. they were holding the leg up for to long at a time. They don't hold weight well on just 3 legs, and need a lot of breaks and little rest times while having a trim. Because when they want the foot down. They put it down. Period. And you better get out of the way. Usually they would start fidgeting so I would say you need to stop and let the leg down for a minute , and if you pushed and tried to hurry there was usually a big problem.
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        01-25-2013, 07:03 PM
      #17
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by stevenson    
    Drafts, that pointed toe is showing lack of hoof care.
    Yes, obvious lack of hoofcare on that one, but worth considering a more pointed, triangular shaped hoof capsule(& P3 inside) may be natural for many drafts, particularly in hind feet.
         
        01-25-2013, 07:07 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    On the Belgian, he had more triangular hinds, had to really watch the trim job on them. It was the pits cleaning his hooves.. talk about being leaned on !!
    Always felt sorry for the farrier, sometimes the horse would allow his hoof to be on the stand, but he really did not like the stand at all.
         
        01-25-2013, 07:17 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by loosie    
    Yes, but I don't trim nightmares, of any breed
    I have 'drafty nips' for those horses - longer handles than my normal ones, so more leverage. Also if you don't attempt full blade-width cuts, but set the nips for each cut only half way from last cut. Yes, I do also have a different/wider rasp too...

    I have that too, but still find my hands too small and my strength too low to make it worth my while. Its not so bad if they are kept up. Over grown draft feet are the pits.

    I have been called to tend to several drafts who were behaviorally awful. I can get a regular horse to cooperate with a little bit of training on a lead line and with a foot rope...even the most afraid and the most recalcitrant kicker. But not a freight train of a draft that weights a ton lol...I rarely fail to trim the average horse. There have been a very few over the years. I have called it quits on several drafts (which is alot comparatively when you figure the amount of drafts vs the light breeds) after being drug through the pasture, kicked, reared up at, stomped on layed on...you name it...Round here they sell shoeing stocks for the big guys and I guess they just don't train the drafts to foot handle without them or something. Put them in a good set of stocks tho Where they can't get away from it and they quit right away. It would be crazy expensive to haul around a set of stocks to ppl who don't have them. Im leaving the bad ones for the big men lol

    I just backed away from them these days unless its a very good horse. They get one shot lol. Not worth the headache and I wasn't charging NEARLY enough! ;)
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        01-26-2013, 03:28 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Trim, a good supplement and some Hoof-flex applied daily for awhile..they look very hard and DRY...too wet is bad and too DRY is also bad..but overall if she is sound, a good trim and daily maint is prob all she needs. I have seen much worse in drafts and they were fine too.
         

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