My senior TWH was diagnosed with EMS
Originally Posted by barrelracer11
Just wanting to here from anyone who has experienced this in their horses. I've never had it happen to a horse before now. Our horses are on free range pasture with a round bale of hay. All of the rest have no problem woth maintenence because they are ridded however one of our horses a Percheron pony and since I barrel race he doesn't get ridden as much. Long story short, he became over weight, over nutritioned, and founder. He is pre-laminitis right now. He is on stall rest 24 hours, 3 flakes of hay per day, bite twice daily, and thyroid medicine because on top of it all he has equine metabolic syndrome. That was the root of the problem the vet said. Just wanting to here your stories of how you got through it and what little tips may help me out. Thank you!
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, or what they call "peripheral cushings" has never had so much as a mild lamnitis attack.
He went from an air fern to a hard keeper. He has been managed with only Chastetree since 2007 but this year I added Remission. He is now 25-1/2. Another TWH was diagnosed with true insulin resistance
, has had mild laminitic bouts since 2010 and fell off the founder fence in a huge way, March 2012.
5 degrees on the RF and 8 - 9 degrees on the LF huge. Those measurements are from the dorsal wall, not ground surface so the rotation was a huge deal.
There are two theories on treating founder:
1. Keep them in 24/7 in deep bedding.
2. Leave them out part of that 24 hour period.
Thankfully my vet wanted my horse outside part of the day.
I put boots and part pads on him and sent him into the half acre, side barnyard with a grazing muzzle during the day. I brought him into a stall with mats and only 3-4 inches of bedding because he was also dealing with torn ligaments from the rehab farrier cutting too much heel in one strike.
Hay was weighed on a scale and went in a slow feed hay net.
Nothing and I mean nothing I bought OTC helped get his insulin down. His insulin level consistently stayed at five times the level of my EMS horse, who was in the "high/normal" range.
During their physicals last December, my vet gave me two choices for the foundered horse:
2. A prescription herbal blend called Hot Hoof 1.
I chose the herbal blend and it has worked miracles. To-date, my horse is maintaining a good weight (I can feel his ribs if I press lightly), I almost can't find his sheath, his eyes are no longer full of matter, he's actually stopped his allergy sneezing, and best of all his hooves are staying cool.
He also has more self-confidence and "zip" to himself, without being a nut case, than he's had in the 6+ years he's been here.
I have new trimmers and with some help from one of the pros on this forum, if he hasn't completely de-rotated, he's very close. My very good vet declared the LF, with 8-9 degrees rotation, would never completely de-rotate and it actually got there first
I certainly would use Thyro-L if the herbs would not have worked, or if they ever stop working but I am a person to take the hollistic route first, as long as it makes sense to do that.
I eventually opened up five acres for my horse to roam on, by himself, and still be able to see his three herd mates.
He stayed alone until the day came that HE told ME he was ready to join the herd. Due to dealing with torn tendons and a lot of coffin bone rotation, he was out during the day alone, for 11 months.
I can't physically trim anymore and have had to hire someone to do the real work but I have learned that it really paid for me to know how to trim.
It was critical to his recovery that I was able to do rasping in-between the Trimmer's 4-week visits, to keep the heels gradually lowered and to keep the front quarters from flaring.
At the very least, 4-week farrier visits are best and I firmly believe in keeping the horse barefoot during rehab. Shoes can go back on, once the horse is ready for work.
Having been thru this to a pretty bad degree, I can see every advantage to keeping the horse barefoot and none to keeping shoes on, during the rehab process. But whomever's rehabbing the hooves has to be well schooled on barefoot principles because there's a lot more involved than slapping a "wham-bam-thankyou-ma'am" pasture trim on the horse. JMHO