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  • Why are they called cowboy snaffle

 
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    07-27-2009, 04:24 PM
  #41
Weanling
What makes me upset is they lable it as a snaffle, a snaffle is any bit with direct rein pressure. Seems to me the western people made the mistake in the name, not the english. I was attacked and confused over stating that I used the English TT, because the western people named their bit wrong. My TT has a snaffle rein, I wouldn't stick something with a three inch curb and no snaffle rein in my horses mouth! Period!
     
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    07-27-2009, 11:24 PM
  #42
Banned
I have a bunch of horse tack magizines and there is TT's for sale and it says "Tom-Thumb Snaffle bit for sale.
     
    07-27-2009, 11:26 PM
  #43
Trained
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Originally Posted by morganshow11    
I have a bunch of horse tack magizines and there is TT's for sale and it says "Tom-Thumb Snaffle bit for sale.
Hence the confusion. It's an incorrect label if you are talking about the TT people here in the states are used to.
     
    07-27-2009, 11:38 PM
  #44
Green Broke
^^ Yes, TOTAL mislabelling.

Why do they do that! Ugh! See? People are going to get misinformed, and then they teach other people, who will teach others, and so on! It's like a virus, lol
     
    07-28-2009, 12:07 AM
  #45
Showing
I am willing to bet that the first person who called it that (possibly a man named Tom Thumb) was uneducated about bits and called anything with a broken mouth a "snaffle" regardless whether it had shanks or not. I guess the name just stuck. What bugs the crap out of me is that it is also called the "cowboy" snaffle and I have never seen an actual cowboy that used it on their horses. LOL
     
    07-28-2009, 08:55 AM
  #46
Showing
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
I am willing to bet that the first person who called it that (possibly a man named Tom Thumb) was uneducated about bits and called anything with a broken mouth a "snaffle" regardless whether it had shanks or not. I guess the name just stuck. What bugs the crap out of me is that it is also called the "cowboy" snaffle and I have never seen an actual cowboy that used it on their horses. LOL
... and you never will. It is an unbalanced bit and not one that a horseman would ever use yet you see so many "Western" riders use them. I would bet it's still one of the best selling bits out there for the uneducated and tack shops still steer them towards the bit. It goes to show you that you can't rely on someone just because they work at a tack shop.
     
    07-29-2009, 01:38 PM
  #47
Weanling
Okay. I think we have already discussed how confusing TT's can be because they are a different bit in different countries...

But lets not also forget that in the US they are also diff. Bits in different disciplines. The western version is the one shown earlier (the one they are talking about here) that is a curb bit. The english version is the same thing as a pelham-- just a pelham with the SHORT shanks.

I don't ride western so I don't know much about the severity of their TT but I do ride english and know that ours is merely a leverage bit... which can be used fine if used correctly.
     
    07-29-2009, 07:42 PM
  #48
Trained
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The english version is the same thing as a pelham-- just a pelham with the SHORT shanks.
Really? I've never heard of any bit other than the western curb and the AUS/NZ snaffle called a TT. Pictures?
     
    07-29-2009, 08:22 PM
  #49
Green Broke
English 'Tom Thumb': Aka Jointed Pelham
Korsteel Tom Thumb Jointed Rubber Pelham from SmartPak Equine
     
    07-29-2009, 08:51 PM
  #50
Trained
Great. Now we have three bits called a TT, just to make it easier for everyone :]
     

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