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post #11 of 46 Old 03-05-2014, 10:03 AM Thread Starter
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I have tow horses that arrived with different issues. One is very protective of his ears and his muzzle and the other was always white eyed and very tense around people. Had I not had a lot of experience with horses, I could easily have misconstrued why these horses are the way they are. There was no abuse in their history, sometimes it's just glitches we have to deal with. Kimberly, just because your horse would rear and not let anyone behind him doesn't mean people stuck him in the rear unless you actually witnessed this. Horse's can't see directly behind (their bum is in the way) and so can be quite protective of it. This is where predators go to hamstring a horse to slow it down.
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post #12 of 46 Old 03-05-2014, 10:18 AM
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I don't consider any horse that was obtained from a Rescue, either "adopted" or bought outright, to be a rescue any longer. They didn't need rescuing, they were safe. Or, they should have been, if it was a reputable and legitimate rescue organization.

I don't consider a horse bought at auction to be a rescue. Anyone can buy that horse, as Saddlebag said, there's no such think as a strictly Killer Buyer auction. And the KB's will happily turn a profit if you want the horse they just bought, they'll sell it to you. I have one of the biggest KB's in the US living just a couple miles from me, he buys and sells daily. Some horses he buys just to turn around so he can sell them again. He's got a bunch of young cowboys who will hop on a horse and see what can be done with it. He doesn't send every horse he buys to slaughter. Far from it. He's also into reining and cutting horses, I've seen him at some high end breed auctions and he's been selling as well as buying. So, just because a known KB buys the horse, doesn't mean they're headed for slaughter if he thinks he can turn them around for a better price.

To me a true rescue is one that's been abandoned in dangerous circumstances or left to starve or is actively being mistreated by an owner. I say mistreated rather than abuse because I don't think it needs to go to outright abuse before the horse can be intervened on, if it's done right.

I had sold 3 horses to someone who fell on hard times. I saw a picture of one of them that made me nauseous and I contacted her and told her I was coming for the horses. I managed to only re-possess one horse and sent animal control out for the others when I got home. They seized all of her starved horses. Notice, I repo'd the horse, I didn't rescue her. I sold her to that person, it was my duty to go get her. When she back pedaled and refused to let me take the other 2 geldings I'd sold her, I got the law involved. They rescued the horses from actively being starved and it was way more than 2.

I think a lot of folks misuse the word rescue because it gives them an ego boost to say, "I rescued this horse from the KB auction." rather than to say, "I went to the low end auction tonight and bought 3 really cheap horses by the pound.".
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post #13 of 46 Old 03-05-2014, 12:29 PM
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I don't consider a horse bought at auction to be a rescue
I do consider some. Yes, some kill buyers resell some horses, but you just need to see the feedlots around here, crammed full of horses being fattened for slaughter, to know that is a fate worth 'rescuing' from, particularly when you know they are crammed onto trucks, shipped to slaughtering facilities which by any definition are not nice places, then executed like cattle(no, I don't agree with the mass slaughter process of any form of livestock). For example, buying a cheap, healthy horse from an auction is not rescue. Buying an unhealthy, unhandled horse off the meat buyer is, in my mind. My BO bought a filly this last year, a weanling. She was the only one to bid against the meat buyer, and didn't pay much. The filly was very young, crusted in poo, very underweight, had an abscess on her chest and was unhandled. She was not a resale candidate for the kill buyer, and I doubt she would have survived a feed lot situation. she was, in my mind, a rescue.

To me, a rescue is a horse that has been removed from a situation(by the current owner, a horse is not a 'rescue' for the rest of its life) that promises an untimely death or severe physical or mental injury/harm. Thus the skinny thoroughbred that had a full round bale but needed grain was NOT a recue. Nor would the spoiled, reactive or poorly trained horse, nor the horse who's feet were a little too long, or was not on a deworming program, or who's owner didn't have time for them, so they lived in a large pasture full of grass.

when I think of an abused horse, I think of one that has been beaten harshly, tied up in a painful, unnecessary manner, or in other was unnecessarily mentally and physically abused. Some training methods are harsher than others, which does not necessarily equal abuse. Many people look at a horse that flinches or is reactive, and cries abuse. This is usually false. My BO has a mare that was born on her farm, out of her favorite mare, by her excellent stallion. Now, at 7 years old, she is a great saddle horse. From birth to 4 or 5 years old was another story. She was crazy reactive, mentally immature, and slow to catch on. Everyone who saw her thought she had been terribly abused, but in truth, she had never been treated harshly a day in her life. The term needs to be used carefully.

But regardless, as another poster mentioned, it should not make a difference in how you train and handle them. My arab mare was scruffy, wearing ill fitting tack and had shoes on that had probably been on for 4+ months. She reacts EXTREMELY to putting anything other than a bit in her mouth, to the point of her being willing to injure herself to get away. She had a similar reaction to getting shoes put on or taken off. Both the farrier and the vet, two men who are trustworthy, experienced horsemen not prone to sentimentally tagging horses as 'abused', told me that they believed she had been badly mistreated. That doesn't mean I treat her differently, or tell everyone she was abused. The fact is, I don't know what happened to her, and it really doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians View Post
I think a lot of folks misuse the word rescue because it gives them an ego boost to say, "I rescued this horse from the KB auction." rather than to say, "I went to the low end auction tonight and bought 3 really cheap horses by the pound.".
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I have some horses that came from a 501C3 rescue that were auction horses most went to slaughter, so yes I have rescue horses. But I dont always call them rescues.
I have a horse that was given to me, as it was to skinny that the local auction turned the horse away, so yes , she was a rescue, if i did not take her she was going to a mexican rodeo for the horse 'roping' .
If I go purchase, or am given a horse that is starved, scarred from being whipped, then I say it is a rescue. If I have a horse that was given to me, or signed over to me, that is what I tell people, I dont consider those rescues. Buying a horse at an auction is not always a rescue, but if it is lame, underweight etc , and it looks like the only people buying it are slaughter , or sometimes they get purchased by facilities that keep large cats , as in lion food.
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post #16 of 46 Old 03-05-2014, 04:46 PM
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Mine is a true rescue, now I need to be rescued from her- because I'm pretty sure she has powers over my mind!!
Mine was forcefully taken from her owner who had her in a dry lot no hay no feed so far underweight she could barely walk and nearly slipper footed. Whole body covered in rain rott and begging for someone to just pet her. I took her on from my nephew who took her from her owner- still so far under that we hid her for months for fear of animal welfare calls.
Now though, she's stellar and spoiled and wonderful!
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I never heard the term before I came on the forum, I’m kinda bemused by it as I get the impression, probably wrongly, that it seems people are rescuing horses left right and centre. And I wonder how you go about it, and who can do it. Can you “rescue” any old horse that you think is abused? Take my old horse for example. He lives in a paddock up to his wrinkly old belly in grass eating and lazing about. He gets his feet rasped now and then, pushes my uncle about occasionally to get some grain when he is feeling greedy and only has to endure being ridden when I go and visit, he’d have to be about 24 or so now. Could someone figure, “he is being abused because he doesn’t wear a rug in winter”, or something and show up with a trailer and drive off with him and claim they rescued him? If someone tried that they would pay dearly I can assure you.
And what is it with abuse? People talking about “my horse was abused so its scared of x, y and z, There must be some horse abusers out there (I have seen horse abuse that would make your blood run cold, but the really bad ones are pretty rare).
I’m pretty confused about the whole rescue thing, and just what people think abuse is myself.
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I have an aunt who loves to tell anyone who will listen that all her horses were rescues.

Two lived in fields, they got basic care, feet done as needed and hay in the winter. Neither were underweight, just didn't get any attention.

Another came from someone's backyard type situation. Got plentiful feed, hooves trimmed and vetting as needed, the girl who owned her list interest.

The final one came from a family who didn't use him anymore because he couldn't keep up with their other trail horses due to his mild arthritis. They took great care of him and they would have kept him had my aunt not taken him.

I guess it just makes some people feel good to say they rescued horses...
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They took great care of him and they would have kept him had my aunt not taken him.

See this is the bit I wonder about, how can your aunt just take the horse if they were looking after it and would have kept it?
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I rescued Bones.... He was rated a 1.5 by the vet, had feet that had grown over his shoes, was in a lot of dirt and nothing else, chewing the fence and eating manure to stay alive, fell down twice in the trailer on the way home. He had no skin on his back due to rot, fly bites on his ears, not much mane. He also had teeth that had grown into the spaces left by no teeth, so he was not able to chew real good, some of his teeth were about 4 to 5 inches long that had continued to grow since no bottom teeth to grind. Huge amounts of worms...
He was a rescue... He probably would not have made it much longer. Took months and months to get weight on him..... This photo was after we had him for awhile and he was beginning to gain weight.
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