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        01-16-2013, 11:39 AM
      #11
    Trained
    I wouldn't want to play " God" in a case like that, TBH...
    But if it wasn't for some of these ridiculous rules some rescues have, I would have taken two horses of the bill, and at least 20 would've come off going to the folks on the forum I mentioned. So that would have helped out 22 others, just in my little world.......
         
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        01-16-2013, 11:42 AM
      #12
    Banned
    We all 'play God' with our animals' lives desert, so I don't see how it should be any different with a rescue. 99 times out of 100 owners have to make end of life decisions, so a rescue should be even more discerning and level headed when it comes to determining who to save and who to let go.
         
        01-16-2013, 11:57 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    I rescued about 150 dogs in one year living in Georgia, by myself, on my own budget, while being in the military full time. The dogs were adopted out from anywhere to free to 100 dollars, depending on how much money and/or training I poured into them. But I had a budget and no dog exceeded it. I put 2 to sleep for aggression issues, because I couldn't place them if I couldn't trust them even after weeks of training. One dog I just made as happy and pain free as possible until he passed on his own, a 13 year old German shepherd with hardly any hair, covered in tumors, and few remaining teeth. Sure, I could have had surgery to remove every one, started him on steroid injections for the hair loss, and still found no one to take him in. After a few weeks, he quietly passed in his sleep, a happy dog in a warm bed.

    There are so many medical advances made available, I think some people forget that, as others have said, if the long term prognosis for a horse is a pasture puff with a constant stream of bills and no forseeable adopter, it may be best to do yourself a favor and let them go with dignity instead of using every medical advancement to keep them on their feet.
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        01-16-2013, 11:59 AM
      #14
    Trained
    Under normal circumstances, yes.
    Which brings me to a couple of cases I know off where rescues seriously overdid it. More than 130 horses seized from one breeder, initiated by the " bleeding heart" type rescue, who, per coincidence happened to show up with an armada of trucks and trailers when the sheriffs went to check the first time. Some elderly horses were PTS on the spot, no reason for it, the rest was loaded and driven away. Without court order, the owner was forced(woman alone at home) to sign over or go to jail. She got 60 or so horses back, the rest disappeared.
    Another: the bleeding heart decided a wet barn isle from a dumped water bucket was enough to take 36 horses, court later decided it wasn't so bad after all, but the majority of the horses was already adopted out.
    Yes, extreme examples, but it happened, all in the name of rescue.
    No doubt, there are good rescues, like the ones who bail out old, sick horses from the kill pens and put them to sleep. But there are just as many very questionable ones.
         
        01-16-2013, 11:59 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    If the horse obviously has no chance of recovering and leading a productive life in some way, then the humans need to be the responsible ones and do what is best for the horse despite their feelings.

    Case and point, poor Ripley here. He lived in pain for years with every vet telling them that he'll never be normal and without pain. They kept him alive until he literally could not go on anymore. Sometimes, we don't need to be 'God', but you could at least be an angel for them.

    RIP Ripley.
         
        01-16-2013, 12:08 PM
      #16
    Trained
    That's a rather obvious case.
    I've seen the opposite. Horse I knew was lame. Owner was going to have it PTS....I knew the horse, told them he had a history of abscesses, he was treated and lived a long happy life.
    In case of the filly mentioned...time will tell. I'm sure in her case the right decision will be made.
         
        01-16-2013, 12:12 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Id like to point out I do support Central Virginia horse rescue, they do a decent job and rehome/sell horses no strings attached.
    Inspections buy back clause, siezure rights, restrictions on use are terms I would never agree to. My horse or Im not bringing it home. Simple is that. Whats even worse is the hypocrite rescues. Say one thing but put something different in writing. Rescues need to quit with the control freak stuff. Simply tell the new OWNERS, if they have problems please call us, and leave it at that and hope for the best. Or they can maitain the status quo, have most owners not even considering rescues then end up with more they can care for or turning good horses away.
         
        01-16-2013, 12:15 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    That's my point. It's obvious, and the people still made the wrong decision. How can we believe they'll make the right ones when it's hard to tell the difference? (I'm speaking generally here, not necessarily about the OP)

    I haven't kept up with the filly mentioned in the OP, but if she comes out of this sound in mind and body, with a good education on her, I don't see a problem with that. As long as she will at some point be marketable to someone. Even if she doesn't grow, she could very well end up being a nice youth mount. However, if she is going to be a nut case pasture pet with lameness issues the rest of her life, well, that's a different case...
         
        01-16-2013, 12:17 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    I have played God with my horses several times.

    Pride and Rian were PTS to prevent further suffering, yes I could have taken them 45mins down the road to the major vet hospital and put both of them through major abdominal surgery with a small chance of success. Both these ponies were rideable, fit and healthy in every other way, but pride was 29 and Rian 19 and did not stable well at all. I could not in good concience put an elderly horse through colic surgery, nor could I subject a horse to months of box rest when he didnt even stable well for 1 night. I would have maybe gained 6 months more with pride and maybe 3 months with Rian (as he would have killed himself in the stable)

    I played god when I chose to spend a fortune getting Reeco right, why did I do it for him and not for my other 2 very much loved horses? I did it because Reeco has a future, a pain free, usefull future with brilliant prospects. He stables realy well and is very easy in every other way. My OH's 4yr old niece can lead him out to the field on her own. There should be no longterm complications and barring any major disasters I should get anouther 20 years from him.

    Call me cynical or cold hearted if you want but I have done my best by all my horses given the circumstances and thier long term prognisis.
         
        01-16-2013, 12:19 PM
      #20
    Banned
    Rescues, just like every other horse owner, need to put spending limits on their charges and have a line drawn in the sand about how far they'll go and no farther. If they can't or won't, then as I previously stated they're fiscally irresponsible and have shoddy management practices. So why would I be tempted to give money to someone like that?
         

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