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    06-26-2012, 07:58 PM
  #41
Foal
Bluespark, I agree with you completely. My abused (actually abused, have eye-witness accounts of the horse being beaten with fists/hoses/whips/sticks - he has scars on his legs if you look closely) horse was distrustful, but got treated like a horse. He did get a bit more time than an unabused horse would get when I re-introduced hoses and whips as a friendly thing, but other than that is fine. He will get a bit anxious when strangers try to touch his face, and he freaks out when sticks make that cracking noise when they fall out of trees, but he's progressivley getting better with it.
It annoys me when people let their horses get away with stuff because they've been "abused" but in reality, the horse knows that they've got the power to push those people around, or they simply just haven't been taught manners.
     
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    09-01-2012, 08:19 AM
  #42
Showing
Many times I've read "I saved the horse from slaughter" Just because a horse is being sold at an auction is not an automatic that it will be slaughtered. Many prospective buyers attend auctions because you can see many horses in one day. Sure there are derelicts horses who's time has come as not every one can bury them. Kill buyers are independent of the slaughter house so it's not an automatic that all the horses they wind up with are slaughtered. Many are sold privately as there is more money in it.
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    09-03-2012, 07:07 PM
  #43
Foal
Thank you for making this thread. I agree with the OP 100%. Its the same thing with dogs. I have 2 shelter dogs. I didn't rescue them. I didn't save them. I bought them from a kill shelter. A kill shelter that is very caring and rarely has to kill nice dogs. If I hadn't got them someone else would have. I just get really annoyed when people say they rescued a dog from the no kill humane society or flipping craigslist. You didn't save the dog. Animal control did. You are being a great person and giving it a home. I can kind of roll my eyes and half way agree with"saving" a black male pit bull from a high kill rate city shelter because it had a higher chance of being pts. Sorry to get a little off topic just needed to get that off my chest and dogs are a big part of my life.
     
    09-03-2012, 08:09 PM
  #44
Showing
Horses do not go directly to the kill pens. I had to take an old timer who really needed to be put down. It wasn't mine. We arrived at Canada Packers and he was placed in a small pen alone. He had enough room to move around. We then went inside as the auction was on and the place was packed. The regular buyers were down in front and their bids were very low. We watched numerous horses being bid on, by the pound, by folks looking for a horse. The regular buyers picked up a few but they were nothing joe public bid on.
     
    09-03-2012, 11:11 PM
  #45
Started
My percheron WAS literally rescued. The horse was being evaluated by the vet, pending being euthanized....they could barely get her to stand. If we wouldn't have stepped up to try and take her, she would have been put down.
     
    09-04-2012, 09:25 AM
  #46
Showing
And there is a Sanctioned Rescue that attends auctions and picks up cripples then tries to rehome them for $1500. When a horse is that lame, often all avenues have been exhausted and there is no alternative, for the horse's sake. Then this "rescuer" takes the poor horse home and keeps it going. That isn't rescue, but blatant abuse.
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    09-04-2012, 09:47 AM
  #47
Foal
I have to agree. When I talk about our "rescue" horses, they are horses we got from a rescue. I don't think (can't remember for sure) that I've ever referred to Cy as a rescue. I refer to him as our FREE horse. What upsets me the most about "rescues" is taking an animal that SHOULD be put down and "saving" it. There are sooooo many GOOD, really good, horses out there that "saving" one that is dangerous, crippled, etc is just stupid and irresponsible. We humans seem to think that animals feel and think as we do so it's horrible that we put down our old and sick animals (would YOU want to be put down just cause you were sick??? Arrrrgghhh) Again, this is hitting close right now cause we had a "rescue" horse with extremely bad down pasterns. He got a little girl more confident because he was so gentle, but he's really breaking down fast....swollen legs and he is in pain. But, according to the rescue we got him from, we can't give up on him. They have actually taken him back and are re-homing him. Now some poor little kid can get attached to him (our little girl didn't) and break his/her heart when he has to be put down in a year or so. And, that's after they spend thousands in farrier bills and vet bills. AND....giving pain meds to a horse on a daily basis JUST to keep it going is ABUSE in my book. If our old boy was in pain being ridden, he would be put out to pasture. If he was in pain just being on pasture, he'd either be sold or put down.
     
    09-04-2012, 11:10 AM
  #48
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I really can not consider that I am abusing my horse because I kept her from being put down. I am actually a little offended. The previous owner left this horse to rot for three years. My girlfriend was called, since she is known in the area for owning drafts. She went out there and had the vets come out at her expense. The owner did not care. Once the vets were out there, it was not their recommendation that she 'had' to be put down, but if not, she would need the extra care to have her recover so she could at least walk. If the decision was to be left by the owner, he would have just put her own, whether she could recover or not. So, my girlfriend took her and I then met the horse, choosing to keep her myself and risk whether she was going to be a pasture pet or actually ride her some day. If the vet would have said she 'needed' to be put down and there was no hope for recovery that would not benefit her life....we wouldn't have done this.

She is now a wonderful, happy horse. She seems very much like she is happy to be in this world and enjoying the attention she gets. Having put down my beloved first horse recently, I in no way have ever felt the feeling like I did from my mare that 'needed' to be put down because she was in miserable pain. But yet, when you decide to put an animal down because they are in obvious pain, people argue that you could have done something to keep the animal alive. So I feel like I can't win.
     
    09-04-2012, 01:18 PM
  #49
Foal
I would just really like to contribute and say that, yes the term "rescued" is way over used. But on that note, I would like to state that I rescued my horse from his previous owner. He was neglected and malnourished and about 300-400 pounds underweight; I would call him a rescue horse.

The first picture is my boy the day he arrived; a year ago last week.

And the second picture is from him exactly a year later; taken last week.

I would call this a rescue.
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    09-04-2012, 01:44 PM
  #50
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My opinion is this:

If you got them from a legitimate shelter/rescue or paid nothing for them to get them out of a bad situation, they are typically "rescues."

If you paid for them (and I'm not talking adoption fees to a legitimate rescue) they are not "rescues." By paying for them, you gave the former owner/breeder the funds to go out and get another animal and put it in the same bad position.

If someone wants to "save" a horse from a kill buyer that's their decision. But... do so knowing that you just gave the kill buyer money to go and buy ANOTHER horse.

If someone wants to "save" a dog from a puppy mill, they've just given the puppy mill owner more money/incentive to breed again.

If you adopt from a rescue, you've freed up a spot for them to rescue yet another animal.

It gets MORE complicated when you consider that some "rescues" actually buy their animals from puppy mills, etc. That's why it's important to do your research on any given rescue/shelter.

I have three "rescue" dogs. I don't go around saying "I rescued them" or even call them "rescues." (I'm not a huge fan of the term, but it is what it is). One of them I got from the shelter, another came from a rescue, and the third one came from a behavioral trainer who pulled him from a shelter and placed him with me.

With my horses it's more complicated. My first Arab came from a friend who got him from a bad situation (for free). He had a good home with my friend, but wasn't much more than a pasture ornament. She gave him to me and I trained him. I don't think I actually "rescued" him because he was just fine at my friends. My friend, on the other hand, DID "rescue" him. I still consider him "a rescue" because that's what he is: regardless of whether I was the first one to get him out of the bad situation. I don't go around saying "I rescued him" but if asked, I say that he was "a bit of a rescue."

With my other Arab, I broke my own rules and paid for him. I got him from what I consider to be a "horse trader" for $250.00. A client of mine bought a horse from the trader and I told them to throw the Arab in the trailer too, because I was thinking with my heart and not my head.

Apparently now this "trader" is calling themselves a rescue and I have serious doubts about that... but oh well. :(
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