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post #201 of 241 Old 02-26-2011, 07:34 AM
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I like this thread. I also like the post that pointed out you do not need a trainer but you do need to research and get a horse to your level. Don't go buying a head shy, disrespectful two year old if you have no experience..... literally get an old babysitter with one foot in the grave who will give you the chance to relax and find your balance.

I read a quote from a vet in Horse and Rider magazine for this month... it said something how the client was the vet's hero because she only owned one horse and could therefore always afford veterinary care...... the vet was tired of seeing people who had many horses but could not afford to care for them all.

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post #202 of 241 Old 02-26-2011, 10:16 AM
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I like the thread to, didn't read every post though. Unfortunely I am in the position where I can't afford the vet, not because I didn't save but because it was spent on hay when the rest went bad. Now my mare is in need of a vet now, I am not prepared to take on two emergencies in one go. Of course I will work out a way to pay maybe borrow from my parents, or take out my fund to replace some of the fencing I'll try to make it work.
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post #203 of 241 Old 04-20-2011, 03:48 PM
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Dear OP, I think I love you. You nailed it perfectly.
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post #204 of 241 Old 04-20-2011, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Crimsonhorse01 View Post
I don't think anyone has the right to say who can and cannot have a horse.
My horses have their basics. Feet, shots, wormer, teeth all that. But should something come up and its a couple thousands sorry i'm going to shoot my horse. Same with all my other critters. For what I spent on that one critter I could easily give another a good home.
Your post offended me...How about we put you in a hut with the basics and if you get sick but it costs a few grand we shoot you, since there's more of your type of "people" all over the world. If you can't afford a few grand to treat your animals, SELL THEM. People like you make me ill to say the least.....I couldn't read any further this poster just stopped me dead in my tracks. And to everyone else, you are all correct in your observations, a horse is not just a pet it's a LIFESTYLE. no $$ kiddies, no ponies.

P.S Where's my pullups???
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post #205 of 241 Old 04-20-2011, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Katze
If you can't afford a few grand to treat your animals, SELL THEM.
Although I tend to agree that that particular post rubbed me the wrong way - that statement is a bit unfair.

And does this thread have much of a point to it other than high fiving each other and back pats for what awesome owners everyone thinks they are? Because that's honestly what all the posts sound like.
'Yup, check out me up here on my high horse looking down on pet owner central and judging others'.

I am not even going to speak to my own financial situation but you can never just outrightly say 'Because my bank account is beefier than yours I must be a better owner'.
I know rich people that barely feed their animals, forget they exist and kick them out of the way when they come over to say hello.
I know not so well off people that save most of their grocery stamps for dog food, love their companion beyond belief, but you better believe it they couldn't afford a hefty vet bill.

I know who I'd rather be owned by.

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post #206 of 241 Old 04-20-2011, 11:52 PM
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I think priorities is important. More so than how much you make. And knowing limits. I'm 21 and a student, my horse is boarded at a tiny facility that only charges 180 a month. There are no grass pastures, they are turned out into a small dirt paddock. By no means am I rich, in fact, I couldn't afford him without my boyfriend splitting bills with me. But Gunnar is on a good quality ration balancer and vitamin supp. He's de-wormed, vaccinated and his feet are trimmed on schedule. He is in perfect health and has more than his basic beeds met. I don't have thousands for a vet bill but I have a vet who takes payments.
A horse is a commitment. Gunnar will never be sold. I don't care what happens to him, if there is a chance he could be happy and pain free, he will get whatever surgury needed no matter the cost. If I'm going to take my $5 pet rat to the vet and spend $50, by God I'll take my horse I paid 700 for to the vet and spend whatever.
I take care of my animals better than some people take care of their children...
I'm not made of money, but money doesn't make my horse happy. Its the little things like being brushed while he mows down clover. I put Gunnar's needs before mine. That's how I justify I should own him. He may not be a human baby but I hold him the equivalent.
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post #207 of 241 Old 04-21-2011, 12:36 AM
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I guess im just spoiled, i rents had horses before me and i just grew up with them, never have had to pay out of my money, still dont & im married, my rents keep them for me for free & pay everything they need, i just go out & groom, wash, love & ride them. but i do have to agree if you cant afford a horse you shouldnt have a horse, if you cant take good care of him or her.

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post #208 of 241 Old 04-21-2011, 01:02 AM
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I have to agree with Shiavo and Kymbadina. Just because I don't have enough disposable income to write a check for a $3000 treatment tomorrow doesn't mean that I am a bad horse owner. Any vet that is worth using knows and understands that too. It's not that most the people who are broke just have horses for grins and giggles, most of us are broke because we have horses. Because we suddenly have to pay twice what we have been paying to have decent hay shipped in due to a drought; because last week, we figured out Sparky's lameness issue and now he needs $300 corrective shoeing to be comfortable; because a month ago, our friend's horse colicked and we knew they would need help with the vet bill so we chipped in what we could.

It isn't always so simple and black and white that "unless you are willing to dish out thousands to treat all your horses, you should sell them". There are other factors to consider and it isn't all about the idealogical viewpoint that you do whatever you have to and spend however much it takes to save their life, regardless of anything else. Because many of us have a tight budget, we have to be more practical about the decisions that we make. No, I would not spend thousands to save a horse's life if there was no chance of it recovering to live a pain free existence where it could still be productive. Not only do I have the injured horse to think about, I also have to think about the other animals at my house that depend on me.

I don't think they would be very understanding if I explained to them "Well, the reason you are eating crappy grass hay is because I had to choose whether to spend that $2000 on saving 28 year old Flash's life or having a load of quality alfalfa trucked in". IMHO, it would be much kinder and more realistic to make the very hard decision to end it's suffering rather than spend thousands, compromise the care of the rest of my horses, and put them through more pain of going through a lengthy and complicated surgery or treatment.

I might have a different tone if I had $100,000 in savings and the horse was a $35,000 show champion but the fact is, none of my horses are particularly spectacular at anything and no matter how much I love them, there are a million more out there exactly like them being born every day. If needed, yes, I could replace one of them. Not emotionally, of course, but for every day work? Absolutely. Some may think that makes me cold, it may be true, I don't know. What I do know is that not everyone has unlimited resources and sometimes we are required to make a difficult decision regarding the future of more than just 1 horse. Sometimes saving that 1 horse's future compromises the future of 5 other horses and 3 children.
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post #209 of 241 Old 04-21-2011, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Crimsonhorse01
I don't think anyone has the right to say who can and cannot have a horse.
My horses have their basics. Feet, shots, wormer, teeth all that. But should something come up and its a couple thousands sorry i'm going to shoot my horse. Same with all my other critters. For what I spent on that one critter I could easily give another a good home.
That post rubbed me the wrong way too..... Giving a critter a good home is not shooting them in the head just because they get a vet bill...... Granted if they are in excruciating pain and nothing can be done to fix it then yes maybe... But even then it would be hard for me to do it.... I'd have to get someone else to do it. You sound like my father..... which is fine.... We just look at animals differently.... I see love... and he sees dollar signs....

And as far as saying you have to have 3 grand to drop here and there to be a good horse owner is absolutely ridiculous. Most the people that dont have a lot of money would do/sacrifice anything so that they have the best of everything... SOME not every person who does have a lot of money.... would rather kick the horse to the slaughter house just because it may be doing something as little as "not working out for them" or "not performing right" or anything along that line thats probably NOT even the horses fault.... Just sayin..... Point is.... You do not need a million dollars to be a good horse owner.... I dont have a lot of money by any means but my paint horse I had was incredibly spoiled compared to all the horses at MM.... She got real quality grain.. treats... toys.... salt blocks.... everything other horses didnt get.... and chiropractic appointments when I could muster up 90 bucks for it every time....
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post #210 of 241 Old 04-21-2011, 09:38 PM
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your jumping the gun and putting words in my mouth...

I've been there no money dog needed 2.7k to get better, thank god for visa....he got better. 2 yrs later dog needed leg operation 60% chance it "might" work, 10k per legthat's 40k I definetly did NOT have. I put him down, he was 5 yrs old, hardest decision I ever made, but I had my husband (who was ill and out of work) and and another dog at home to take care of and bills coming outta my youknowwhat. Thank god that chapter in my life is over!
I never said you need a beefy bank account, I never said you need to fix your horse no matter what, I DID say was if he/she needs vet care and you can't afford it that you shouldn't own a horse. Horses ARE EXPENSIVE it's a lifestyle, either you CAN afford it or you cannot, and people who are very willing to just "off" thier animal because there's a ton of them out there irk me. There are so many people complaining and moaning on this forum that they can't afford vet care yet they own 1-3 horses, and "omg what should I do, give me advice, he's so and so blablalbla" imo they should NOT own a horse.

Trust me if they were cheap I'd have a freaking dozen horses....

p.s please excuse the-wall-o-text.
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