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        01-01-2014, 06:18 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    I can personally say I love my horses, probably would save them before a person. However I don't believe they love me, they like when I tickle them or feed them but when I'm training anyone of them love goes out the window and respect is what I ask for.
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        01-01-2014, 08:46 PM
      #22
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    A horse are incapable of loving humans. Many will display a pleasing dependency that may be interpreted as love.
    While I do believe that this is true most of the time I do think that horses are capable of actually loving a human. My trainers ex show horse is treated the same by both of us. We discipline the same, treat him the same, etc. If I (in example) were to get on him and ask him to do something that he absolutely hated he would balk and fuss. With her, he would go over the moon to get it done.

    I don't have any sort of "black stallion" disillusionment, my gelding is many things, when it comes to the fact that at the end of the day I'm the almighty feed bag. However, I do think that he loves me to a degree. I can ask him to do something out of his league for me and he would kill himself to do it. Maybe that's loyalty but I think that with any form of loyalty there comes a certain amount of love.

    What I'm trying to say is that I do believe horses are capable of loving humans but I don't think it's shown as obviously as people think it is and I don't think it comes after a few months of owning the horse - I think it comes after a few years.
         
        01-01-2014, 11:20 PM
      #23
    Yearling
    Ok so here is a little different question. Do you think your horse would mourn your lose? This can be seen by a horse when another herd member dies.
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        01-02-2014, 12:12 AM
      #24
    Showing
    That is a dang fine question and sometimes I really wonder just how much horses understand and feel.

    We got Nester from an old cowboy friend just before he (the cowboy friend) passed away. His funeral procession went right by our pasture on the way to the cemetery. As the hearse turned the corner, our entire herd, led by Nester, went to stand along the fenceline in a row and watched all the cars drive by. As soon as the funeral procession was done, they slowly walked back to their hay bale...and Nester was the last to leave the fenceline.

    Now, I'm sure there are some that would say it was nothing more than coincidence, and that's entirely possible, but it sure made me wonder.
         
        01-02-2014, 09:43 AM
      #25
    Showing
    Do horses mourn the death of another or is it because there is an upset in herd dynamics?
         
        01-02-2014, 10:11 AM
      #26
    Yearling
    I'm really starting to get into this thread. Haha

    I think that horses do mourn, people, other animals I think when someone leaves who they love then they grieve.
    A year ago my mare lost her "boyfriend". They were in the same herd and did everything together for the past eight or nine years. They weren't herd bound in the slightest to one another and never had a problem leaving the others side because as soon as they were together again they went off together. He was dying and we brought him up to the barn so that the vet could look at him and my mare busted through six fences and a gate to stand by his side. She wasn't tethered or haltered at all and in an open area where she could have just run off. When he was being put to sleep she stood over him, laid down with him and when it was all said and done she didn't leave his body for days, didn't even wander out of the property line. When she went back into the field she just walked around and looked like she was mourning. If I had any doubts that a horse could mourn death than she cleared it all away from her actions.

    If a horse can mourn a horse then can't it mourn a human as well? As people we mourn the loss of a dog and another human it may not be as drastic or the same but it's mourning. Also everything grieves differently. I think certain horses can mourn the loss of a person and not show it at all while others make it quite obvious. I know I've had several instances with horses and other animals that have made me think that they do grieve and have their own sort of funeral for the deceased. I've seen horses stand over the grave where one was buried and just wait, I watched a horse where we boarded lose his owner, when they carried her body out he followed the ambulance down the lane and was disconsolate for quite some time, and I've seen horses wait for their people and won't move until their person arrives.

    I do believe that a big difference and maybe why we question if a horse mourns is because they continue on with their lives. (As harsh as it might sound). I've noticed that in humans when a person dies it takes a bit longer than it does a horse to accept the death and move on (not in a completely normal sense but in a "as best we can" sense). Horses (and animals in general) seem to realize better than us at times, that death is an inescapable fact of life. They seem to know that they need to reflect on the good times and continue living life to the fullest because eventually it will be their turn. Just my thoughts.
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        01-02-2014, 05:37 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    Saddlebag--How do you know that they are incapable? To say that a horse is incapable of loving a human, would that not also suggest that they are incapable of loving at all?

    I am under the impression that horses have the ability to feel affection, or love.
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        01-02-2014, 05:55 PM
      #28
    Showing
    Then why not relate your observations?
         
        01-02-2014, 06:52 PM
      #29
    Showing
    A horse that's kept alone will welcome company, be it a human, dog, cat, goat. If a horse loves a person then it won't immediately run off or attempt to when another horse shows up? If the horse loves a human then it will be always obedient, never put the rider at risk with a buck or spook.
         
        01-02-2014, 07:51 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    ^Love between two people does not always imply obedience, or constant companionship. Why would it between a horse and a person?
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