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  • Can you use inktense on top of water color pencils
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    03-12-2012, 05:59 PM
  #1
Weanling
First rubbish attempt with Inktense pencils


-grumble grumble-
Critique welcome, where did it all go wrong?
I'm going to try the smooth side of the watercolour paper next time, I don't think working on the rough side helped much!
     
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    03-13-2012, 12:55 AM
  #2
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It's hard to work with these, I know. I think you need to think of them more as pencils, with some "bleed" to them. So, don't have all of the lines bleed, keep some as colored pencil marks, and let others bleed. You will need to do more than one piece before you cast judement on these, they are not easy.
     
    03-13-2012, 02:53 AM
  #3
Foal
Wow, I wish I could do that. Great drawing :)
     
    03-13-2012, 03:42 AM
  #4
Weanling
Around the eye is very dark, and then it goes to a lighter brown with a very defined line. I think you need to smooth it so it is more of a transition rather than solid change of colour, if that makes any sense at all! :P
     
    03-13-2012, 06:04 AM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
It's hard to work with these, I know. I think you need to think of them more as pencils, with some "bleed" to them. So, don't have all of the lines bleed, keep some as colored pencil marks, and let others bleed. You will need to do more than one piece before you cast judement on these, they are not easy.
You're right, they are hard!! I got so excited with having them and then got frustrated when I started using them, some lines didn't want to bleed, it dried super fast, argh!
So you mean have coloured pencil throughout the whole drawing? I think the only area I used coloured pencilo for the wholething was the eyeball. I thought I'd try different techniques and let the water do the work for some of it. Apparently the water doesn't do the work ;)
I think I'll look up some tutorials on youtube :)
     
    03-13-2012, 09:14 PM
  #6
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I just think you have to play around with them. In a way, since they compromise between the ease of pencils but the freedom of watercolors, the middle ground is not necessarily the best of both worlds. But in any case, I think I'll try mine again.
You have the Derwent inktense? That's what I used to do this German Shepard

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Some areas you can see lines that look like straight from the pencil, not modified with water. Some areas (background) is like pure watercolor. I had a very wet brush and just brushed it against the pencil to load it with color, so was fully "painting" directly on paper, no pencil lines at all. The face is layers. I would draw a color, moisten a brush to spread and soften this color, sometimes dabbing off excess with a paper towel, then after it dries, add another color. However, it never "sets". If you add water to the finished product, you will get more bleeding. So, must keep finished product dry.


Please forgive me for posting my art on your thead! But I wanted to show an example. I thought this piece came out well, but I have a good half dozen others that are muddy and lifeless looking.
     
    03-14-2012, 05:39 AM
  #7
Weanling
Oh no don't worry about it, it's good to see an example to help me understand how they work without wasting paper. What paper did you do the shepherd on? I did the horse on watercolour paper and it still crinkled, I must have got a bit carried away with the water when the colours weren't bleeding like I expected them too...
Yeah I bought the Derwent tin of 24, I'd read some good reviews/seen some good review videos but they are a lot harder than they let on! I was a bit silly expecting an "apply water and the pencil will bleed perfectly" effect. :p
     
    03-15-2012, 03:52 PM
  #8
Foal
I despise watercolor type pencils. I think because I basically expected it to be watercolor on a stick and it's more of a pencil that you use water to blend or soften. There is definitely a middle ground you need to find, but I think that 'middle' is closer to the colored pencils side. I've never used Inktense, but I've seen some really amazing things people have done with them so it IS possible. You've just got to work with your medium!
     
    03-15-2012, 07:07 PM
  #9
Weanling
Yeah, I've been having another go at them, treating them more like coloured pencils rather than watercolour sticks ;) It's turning out much better, even if it is a super simple clown fish
     
    03-17-2012, 02:57 PM
  #10
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Originally Posted by ElaineLighten    
Oh no don't worry about it, it's good to see an example to help me understand how they work without wasting paper. What paper did you do the shepherd on? I did the horse on watercolour paper and it still crinkled, I must have got a bit carried away with the water when the colours weren't bleeding like I expected them too...
Yeah I bought the Derwent tin of 24, I'd read some good reviews/seen some good review videos but they are a lot harder than they let on! I was a bit silly expecting an "apply water and the pencil will bleed perfectly" effect. :p

I used my usual paper; 140lb cold pressed watercolor paper. I think these pencils might work better on a hot pressed paper, which has less texture to it.
     

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