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    02-26-2012, 05:45 PM
  #101
Trained
Agreed with tiny :)
You have made a good start on the horse, but the eyes really are the most vital part of a portrait. Without getting the eyes right, it can look like any old horse and not the clients.
May I advise you to zoom right up on the eyes, and on a piece of scrap paper, try to replicate them. Horse eyes tend to have a straight line from the inside corner nearly to the top of the eye, if you don't get this straight angle, then the eye will always look cartoonish.
     
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    02-26-2012, 06:04 PM
  #102
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I agree with tiny and kayty. Also the headcollar ring near the eye is not angled right in your drawing. Its straight on, whereas it should be almost flat on the horse's side. Same with the eyes.
If I havent got a clear decent picture to work from I would turn down that photo and demand for another. I can't make a smashing cake with bad ingredients. Improvising is never good because you are not drawing what you see.
The dogs are way cute though, Sniz!
     
    02-26-2012, 06:07 PM
  #103
Yearling
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
It's the eyes that need correcting. They are orbs , which are partialy encases in the eyesocket/eyelid. The horse's left eye is on such an angle that the eye socket (bone structure of the face) blocks your ability to view the whole orb. So, you must draw the orb of the eye more covered by the eye lid/socket. It ends up being more like seeing only half the orb.
Really look at the eye shape (as defined by the eyelid over the eyeball) it isn't round , but there's kind of a "peaked up" area , which is the upper eyelid, and it makes the eyes more diamond shaped in appearance. Your horse's eyes look more like dog eyes.

The ears are very good and look just like the reference photo. Muzzle, too, is very good. That is one tough photo to work from. I would have asked her for a better one. If the client cannot provide a good photo, and asks you to make adjustments, you should charge a bit more becasue it takes more time.

The dogs are great!
I'll try and sort the eyes out tomorrow...

I did ask her for a different picture but every one she gave me was just blurry, out of focus or just not very good. Makes it so much harder.

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Originally Posted by Kayty    
Agreed with tiny :)
You have made a good start on the horse, but the eyes really are the most vital part of a portrait. Without getting the eyes right, it can look like any old horse and not the clients.
May I advise you to zoom right up on the eyes, and on a piece of scrap paper, try to replicate them. Horse eyes tend to have a straight line from the inside corner nearly to the top of the eye, if you don't get this straight angle, then the eye will always look cartoonish.
I can't zoom in on the picture because it's basically rubbish that's why I'm having to improvise so much. All the pictures she sent me are blurry and out of focus. When I zoom in or enlarge any of them they just blur totally.

Like I said I'll try the eyes again tomorrow.

Everyone loves the dogs can't wait to finish them.
     
    02-26-2012, 06:08 PM
  #104
Yearling
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Originally Posted by ConfusciusWasAGreatTeachr    
I agree with tiny and kayty. Also the headcollar ring near the eye is not angled right in your drawing. Its straight on, whereas it should be almost flat on the horse's side. Same with the eyes.
If I havent got a clear decent picture to work from I would turn down that photo and demand for another. I can't make a smashing cake with bad ingredients. Improvising is never good because you are not drawing what you see.
The dogs are way cute though, Sniz!
Yep I did ask for better but everything she gave me was just... bad
     
    02-26-2012, 06:12 PM
  #105
Trained
It doesn't need to be this particular photograph, just look on the net for front on views of horses and focus on their eyes, the general shape is pretty well the same in most horses. Drawing them front on is **** hard!
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    02-26-2012, 06:18 PM
  #106
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Originally Posted by Snizard93    
Yep I did ask for better but everything she gave me was just... bad
I don't get some people. I'm running a competition on my site and I clearly state 'high def, clear, not blurry, clear features, etc etc' and people are STILL sending me crappy photos. I just wanna pull my hair out!!!!!!
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    02-26-2012, 06:23 PM
  #107
Trained
Haha get used to it girls!!! That's what happens when you do commissions, be prepared for a lot of very grainy phone photos, flash eyes and shocking lighting, makes you appreciate the good photos a lot more!
     
    02-26-2012, 06:31 PM
  #108
Yearling
I'm trying my hardest, does help if I have a good photo
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    02-26-2012, 07:37 PM
  #109
Super Moderator
I usually only accept such blurry photos if it's of a hrose that has died, so no better ones can be taken. Otherwise, I will see if the client is willing to take some more.

But it's really neat that you are doing commissions!
     
    02-26-2012, 08:01 PM
  #110
Super Moderator
Here is an example of the orb of the eyeball inside it's eyesocket
IMG_2688.jpg


Disregard the left right. Obviously, I am wrong. It's only the viewer's left/right.

Anywya, am just trying to show how the eyelid covers up the eyeball and changes the outline that we see.
I overlaid your drawing with tracing paper (very sloppily) and redrew the eyes so that they are covered by the eyelid. I hope this helps. I am not trying to upstage you, and hope you will not be offended by this. Once you get the eye down, you'll see your drawings really take on a life of their own.
IMG_2686.jpg
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