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        01-17-2012, 09:55 PM
      #11
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    Don't be so sure about that . . .
    Well I can only hope and of course, practice, practice and practice some more...
         
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        01-19-2012, 07:50 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Looking good!

    I love the owl, it has such a sweet face, for a not so easy subject you have done a great job.
    Being a proportions nazi, I have to disagree with Tiny on the dog. Sorry mate I'm not a fan of that one. Though it's bold, it is just not what I like. I prefer a range of tones, so the blunt pen work doesn't do it for me, along with the proportions being out.

    As for the mare, I lovethe proportions, I like the eyes though if could have been made a touch bigger and bolder. The shading is good, but as Tiny said, more detail - tonal values, tonal values, tonal values. Put in 10's, and 1's where ever you can. That is what makes a drawing pop out :)
         
        01-19-2012, 07:53 PM
      #13
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Kayty    
    Looking good!

    I love the owl, it has such a sweet face, for a not so easy subject you have done a great job.
    Being a proportions nazi, I have to disagree with Tiny on the dog. Sorry mate I'm not a fan of that one. Though it's bold, it is just not what I like. I prefer a range of tones, so the blunt pen work doesn't do it for me, along with the proportions being out.

    As for the mare, I lovethe proportions, I like the eyes though if could have been made a touch bigger and bolder. The shading is good, but as Tiny said, more detail - tonal values, tonal values, tonal values. Put in 10's, and 1's where ever you can. That is what makes a drawing pop out :)
    I don't like drawing in pen, it was just something really quick I knocked up.

    And yes, about the shading tones on the mare, they are a bit better in real life, the camera has washed it out! But that's no excuse, I didn't put much time into the drawing which I know I should. Just throwing in some quick sketches to get me started again.

    I am going to invest in some pastel pencils because I think I will work better with those, but we shall see
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        02-04-2012, 06:22 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    So I redid the picture below using charcoal pencils instead of ordinary pencil. I scanned this one, and it has lightened it up a little which I don't like, and it also looks like the nose has stretched. Try to imagine the face being a tad shorter It's an Arab Mare.




    This is a drawing of two yearling colts. I did this last night and thought I would post to see what you thought of it. I didn't scan this one, just took a picture. It does look a little better in real life too This is in charcoal pencil too.

         
        02-04-2012, 11:46 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    Anyone? Advice, critique? How can I make it look more realistic?
         
        02-04-2012, 12:30 PM
      #16
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Snizard93    
    Anyone? Advice, critique? How can I make it look more realistic?
    My computer here at work only lets me see the second pic out of the two. I work with charcoal quite a bit and what I love about using it is that you can create a lot of depth with layering and shading. So with your drawing of the two colts, I'll use the paint as an example. In the dark spot on his neck you could blend to smooth it out. Then take a look at how the muscles in the neck are shown and build a few layers to contour/highlight where you see the change in tone. You can do that with the lighter areas too but you have to be a little light-handed with the shading and contouring.
    I really like the pose of your drawing. Very cute moment to capture. Look forward to seeing more!
         
        02-04-2012, 02:05 PM
      #17
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by midwestgirl89    
    My computer here at work only lets me see the second pic out of the two. I work with charcoal quite a bit and what I love about using it is that you can create a lot of depth with layering and shading. So with your drawing of the two colts, I'll use the paint as an example. In the dark spot on his neck you could blend to smooth it out. Then take a look at how the muscles in the neck are shown and build a few layers to contour/highlight where you see the change in tone. You can do that with the lighter areas too but you have to be a little light-handed with the shading and contouring.
    I really like the pose of your drawing. Very cute moment to capture. Look forward to seeing more!
    Thank you for looking. Yeah I know what you mean about blending. The pencils I have don't smooth out too great, it doesn't make it easy.
         
        02-04-2012, 02:43 PM
      #18
    Banned
    I really like the two colt pictures. Great subject. I agree with midwest, if you look back at the reference picture, the areas of shading usually almost never stop with a line (unless it's a paint horse of course! Which the one on the left is, right?) but even still, there will still be shading of muscle within the coat colour (if that makes sense?). I would also try and make the outlines lighter if possible, as if they are too dark and 'outliny' it can make the subject look cartoonish. I'm no expert though, but I think this one is the best and I also liked the owl aswell.
         
        02-04-2012, 03:11 PM
      #19
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by ConfusciusWasAGreatTeachr    
    I really like the two colt pictures. Great subject. I agree with midwest, if you look back at the reference picture, the areas of shading usually almost never stop with a line (unless it's a paint horse of course! Which the one on the left is, right?) but even still, there will still be shading of muscle within the coat colour (if that makes sense?). I would also try and make the outlines lighter if possible, as if they are too dark and 'outliny' it can make the subject look cartoonish. I'm no expert though, but I think this one is the best and I also liked the owl aswell.
    Thank you very much Confuscius! Can I just say your art looks beautiful! How long have you been drawing for? It really bugs me that my drawings don't look as realistic as I would like. Everything you said did make sense yes, I think it is easier to use colour for the reasons you have stated - but I'm not brave enough for that yet! My friend has asked me to draw her gelding, so I will remember to make the outlines faint, and try to blend my charcoal more. As I said before, my pencils are a bit naff which makes it harder for me.
         
        02-04-2012, 07:32 PM
      #20
    Banned
    Thank you. I've been drawing most of my life It's always been my passion (aswell as horses of course). But because of life and responsibilities, I got out of doing it for a long time and only recently, things in my personal life have suddenly gone 180 and drawing again is helping me alot mentally.

    I know how you feel when you say about your own work bugging you. The other day I started a drawing, spent HOURS on it and totally screwed up the eye. I abandoned the picture all together and started another. It felt crap. But, the positive that came out of it was that I learn't that in future, I'm always going to finish the eye before the rest, because capturing depth in an eye is, for me, one of the hardest parts of a picture. So if I get that right first, then the rest will probably be ok. Lol
         

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