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post #151 of 194 Old 04-19-2013, 08:58 AM
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Thanks you all!

Jaydee~ Your advice matters to me! However... it actually is a photo, not a drawing. I turned it black and white to post on here so that I can compare. I can post the colored version if you like.

I should try to draw from real life, without any photo at all ("still life"). It would be good practice for me. What a really want is to draw from my own imagination at times. You get a picture in your head and just want to transfer it to paper. Haven't gotten there, yet!
I thought it looked more like a computer generated image than a photo but I could be wrong (I very often am!!!) My son who's studying animation does them and they do look like photographs - I'll put one on into the 'My Albums' bit on my profile page thingy later on today so you can see what I mean
Any drawing you do is practice - I was just concerned that you would drift into the trap of imitating someone elses style without realizing
Just a point about drawing from imagination - when my son went to his first pre-college portfolio day his work (mostly from imagination) was slammed by the animation professors who said they wanted to see real life studies so stick with the photographs or real life
Give the flowers another try - I just finished one in acrylics, a real challenge!!!
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post #152 of 194 Old 04-21-2013, 01:30 AM
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It is a very worthy project to advance you skill. I may not care for the subject matter, but doing this, freehand copying such a complicated image, is good to develop the eye/hand. Hard work/practice makes a more skillful artist.
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Dreamcatcher5 -- Yep, it would be pretty hard to draw my horse in real life, too. She's far to inquisitive.

Well, right now I'm taking a little break from drawings for others, but as soon as I start it up again I'll post it on here for ya! I just want to practice different things for a while. I'm actually thinking about some close up studies after this LotR drawing.

Jaydee -- Ohhh. I see what you mean now. I thought you thought it was a drawing. Oops. You are right then. I didn't even think about that. I just thought somebody edited some photos together and put foggy stuff around it. It just looked like fun to draw so...

Thanks for bringing it up though. I'll keep that in mind. :)

Btw, I looked in your album and saw your acrylic flower. WOWZA. It's so beautiful! I do want to retry some flowers eventually for sure. Someone on deviantART is critiquing my latest drawings, and she said that the flower is too liney and is mostly one tone. On her advice I am trying to use my good drawing pencils on this drawing instead of just the mechanical pencil so I have a bigger range of tones.

Tinyliny -- Yep. Right now I'm trying to focus on details and I thought this one would be good for that. I've never drawn fog or rocks before, either, so this will be good all-around practice. It also should keep me from getting bored anyway! Sometimes when my drawing only has one or two main subjects I get bored with it and lose my motivation. This picture has several subjects so it should keep me busy.

And finally, here is what I have so far! I'm currently working on Aragorn's face and armor. I will draw his hair after that.
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(On the advice of that same lady I am sort of mapping out the shadows first, and THEN drawing in the details. Thoughts on that?)
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I think when you are finished with this I will drop dead jealous....
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I think you're going to make a really great job of this and its going to give you experience of using shading to create depth
I struggle a bit with the idea of shade before line or the other way around as I more tend to do the whole thing together as it forms - hard sharp lines don't really happen in real life so sometimes its best to blend edges into each other a bit with a softer look
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I just looked through this thread and I am amazed! The way you capture the life in the eyes of the subjects you draw is breathtaking.
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You are amazing!!! I really like the calily A LOT!! I thought I knew how to draw flowers and now that I compare it —mine looks horrible LOL!

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Thanks you all so much!

Jaydee~ Yes, that's how I normally draw--doing the detail and shading at the same time. I still am doing that to some extent, but I am mapping out the light shading first. I'm also using my q-tips more often to blend and I like how that makes my drawing look.

WhiteHorse~ I'm bet your drawing doesn't EITHER look horrible! But thanks a lot for the compliment. :)
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With regard to the montage you are copying. IT's a great excersize for building accuracy, which I think you have a very remarkable inborn talent for. You are FAR better at copying the EXACT position of things than I am. I go back and check your line against the photo,and the position and angles is perfect. Is that purely by eyeballing or do you use any kind of measuring tricks? I use a pencil agains the screen, to visualize angles better and to get the porportion of one line in relation to another.

So, as I said, there is nothing wrong with copying things. I pretty much do that with all my paintings.
However, if I don't spend some time looking at the WHOLE image, it's weight, movement, lines, shadow patterns and overall "feel" of the painting, I can get lost in the detail and end up with a finished piece that is LESS than the sum of its' parts. LIke a jig saw puzzle.

I look at the whole because what I want is to capture what's important. So, when I look at the whole, I am looking for what's important. The thing that makes that image worth looking at for more than a few seconds. A good photo, painting or whatever will invite more than a glance, so why is that?

Is the line in the swords? The two angles as the approach each other? Is the twist in Aragon's torso as he lits the sword for action? Is the whipping hair, from an obviously fierce wind? Where is the "movement" here? How does the artist want the viewer to move through the picture? Top left to bottom right?

Just out of curiousity, you could draw this to absolute perfection, as you as extremely suited to do. And it will be gorgeous!

AND, you can redraw it, making it "yours" by deciding what is important and putting stronger, darker lines there, more energy, more shading more detail; and leaving the background support things to be softly "suggested" . It would be a copy, but not a copy.
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Re. Tinyliny's comment - If I was your professor I would want you to put something of yourself into it - so not just a great copy but something that's also unique to you
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