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post #11 of 38 Old 11-09-2009, 02:58 PM
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I'm definitely likin' this so far Liz! I haven't dabbled in pastels much at all so anyone that can work with them is pretty much amazing =)
But with everyone talking about working with new mediums makes me feel guilty about that saw-blade I have to paint that I've been putting off...(stomps out of the room to go get paintbrushes)...


But it looks great so far!

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post #12 of 38 Old 11-09-2009, 11:49 PM Thread Starter
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Here is what I have done tonight. As ya;ll can see, I not only covered more surface area, but I changed the overall color and brightness quite a bit. I took Kayty's advice with the purple around the eye and even put a little purple in the mane and ears.

Then I blended what I had already done with my finger and layed down a reddish brown color, then blended that with my finger, then went back and drew the hairs. I am still not 100% satisfied with the overal color, but I do think it "pops" more than it did earlier. I am afraid if I try to do any more layering, I am just going to screw up the color futher, so for this drawing I am just going to stick with my current formula.

I wasn't even going to think about selling this drawing, but the girl who took the picture wants to buy the original. Still trying to decide on a price considering this "is" my first attempt. She told me she can't decide if she wants to give it to the foal's owner as a Christmas gift or keep it for herself...lol.

My next practice piece is going to be of a gray horse on black paper, so any advice on that would be appreciated.

Ok, now for the updated drawing.
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Much much much MUCH better Liz!!!! See how it stands out so much more when you layer your colours rather than just diving straight in and putting detail straight to paper? The layers at the bottom make it easier to get the top layers of detail in because if fills in some of the little 'teeth' in the paper, making it a bit smoother for those final layers.
The thing with pastel is that you CAN get away with making it a bit more colourfull than the original photo, I actually try to let some of the undercoat colours show through into the final layer, it makes it more interesting and stands out alot more than plain browns ;)

Eeek a grey on balck paper, good luck with that :S Have done one of those and HATED it. Greys are terrible to draw in pastel, because you have to be more conservative with the colours you use as a base coat. And you sure as hell can't put grey/white straight onto the black because it will look flat as a pancake if you do that! You need to use alot of the lighter more typical 'pastel colours' under the grey, so in the shadows go for a slightly darker blue/purple/green, then in the highlights put a pale yellow/pink/blue/green. It's hard on black as well because it's horrible to get smudges off of, and backgrounds don't look so great IMO. I'd be doing a chestnut on blue if I were you, just to get used to leyering colours, chestnuts are the best for learning that!
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Pretty amazing. I never had the vision that tells me to make a chestnut horse out of purple, but I can certainly see that it works--for somebody else...this is another beautiful piece, Liz, and it's fun watching the results of Katyty's tutorial.

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post #15 of 38 Old 11-10-2009, 08:16 PM Thread Starter
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hmmm...ok, well, I definitely don't HAVE to do the gray on black paper. Actually the darkest sheet of paper is more of a very dark gray. I do have a Charcoal sketch pad with assorted colors ranging from gray to pale blue to different shades of tan. The paper seems to be a little thinner and slightly less toothy than the pastel paper. The guy at the art store told me I could get away with drawing on the charcoal paper with soft pastels. Any thoughts on this and a potential color that would best suit a gray horse (and by gray I mean anything from dappled to mostly white)?

Oh yeah, and I have no desire to draw a background on the next drawing.
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Pretty amazing. I never had the vision that tells me to make a chestnut horse out of purple, but I can certainly see that it works--for somebody else...this is another beautiful piece, Liz, and it's fun watching the results of Katyty's tutorial.

When I do colored pencil drawings, I use purple a lot for shadowing effects on chestnut horses. I use indigo blue for shadowing on bays. Sometimes I use both blue and purple at the same time...lol. I use light blue alot for highlighting around th eyes and muzzle as well. And yellow for highlighing a white horse, especially in the mane.
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Which is all exactly why you will have to pry my nice somber grey pencils from my cold, dead hands. I can't even paint my walls a proper color.
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Hahahaha toadflax you should have a go at it!! If you put the photo of the animal up on photoshop or similar, and enhance the colour you'll be able to see all the different colours that are in the coat ;) I've done so many now that I can just have a look at the photo and see what I need for the undercoats. Some bays you need to lay a bright red under, others a blue, all depends on the lighting and tone of the coat.

Liz, as for the grey, usually I like them on a light/medium purple, or a blue of some sort. In your head a grey will look superb on black, but I've made that mistake as I said above, and it looked so flat no matter what I did to it. You want to put it on a colour that is part of the undercoat colour (sorry I'm just adding things in as I think of them haha so no particular order!!) to bring it out in the final layers. So say you're doing a chestnut, I use a HEAP of blue in the darker areas of a chestnut, so my paper colour of choice is usually a blue. Means I don't have to work as hard on the base coat too because the paper colour comes through ;)

You said you used alot of yellow to highlight white manes? In coloured pencil you can do that, but if you want to give a really clean crisp feel to a white mane, stick with blues and purples ;)

Charcoal paper you can get away with, but you might struggle to layer the pastel as the teeth on the paper won't hold as much pigment. That's why I prefer to use the thicker pastel paper with quite heavy teeth on the surface - I layer ALOT! The drawing is literally off the page, you can see a ridge on the side of it :S

Look forward to seeing the next installment :)
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Once again Kayty, thank you soooo much for the advice! I bought the multi colored charcoal paper with the intent on doing soft pastel drawings.

I may still go back and to ther gray on the darker gray pastel paper just for the challenge. I am very prepared to lay down a few colors as a foundation. Can't learn unless you think outside the box eh? I will definitely keep ya'll poste as I go along.

One again, words can not describe how grateful I am that you are lending me these words of wisdome.
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You never know, because the paper is a dark grey rather than straight black, it could work out really quite well, but I know that black paper and pastels aren't very good friends :P

Not a problem what so ever liz, I enjoy helping people out when I can, even if they take it badly haha! Looking forward to seeing lots more pastels from you!! I better watch my back though, you're going to out do me not only in graphite but with pastel too eeeeek *runs away to start drawing again*
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