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post #1 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 09:12 PM Thread Starter
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Totally random queston here: Is there a type of paint that works well over a waxy surface such as crayon? This is for a friend of mine who wants to melt crayons on a canvas, then paint over the crayon with either white or black paint. It would have to be a paint that will bind to the crayon without peeling off. I wonder if gesso would even work.
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post #2 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 09:20 PM
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Killz primer. Not really seeing why you'd wanna do that. But sounds like art, and ill probly never understand art
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Try adding the black or white piment to the wax. So melt your colored wax over the canvas. Add your black and white pigment to a clear wax, melt and paint on.

Google, encaustic painting. Lots of tips and tricks. I wouldn't trust paint of any kind to adhere well to wax.....UNLESS you paint/melt on your wax, let it dry, paint over with your black and white, then coat again with clear wax.....THEN coat the canvas with wax paper and iron from the underside with an iron at medium setting (make sure to put down wax paper on both sides of the canvas) you could get an interesting effect with this!

Also, I'd be more inclined to use a heavy weight watercolor paper with lots of tooth to 'grab' the wax......
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Killz primer. Not really seeing why you'd wanna do that. But sounds like art, and ill probly never understand art
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If you don't like art, then I'd suggest you remove yourself from the art thread. As many of us make an income out of our art and enjoy it very much

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Thanks Muppetgirl. Basically, my friend wants to melt a bunch of crayons on a canvas (kind of like kids do in elementary school) and then paint a design or quote over the melted crayons. She came to me for advice because I paint, but I just had no idea what to tell her. Someone else mentioned encautsics in another forum, so I'll tell her about those. They seem pretty complicated to use. Good call on using a toothed surface. She wants to use canvas board, so do you think that will be toothed enough?

And at Phly, I agree with Kayty. I am not sure what that statement was for, but art takes on so many forms. It doesn't have to just be pencil on paper. No need to insult someone else's method of creating artwork.
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Sometimes when people want that 'canvas' look, like a gallery wrapped canvas (love those! No framing required!) but need to paint or use their medium on a better or more appropriate surface here is what you do.......create your image on the appropriate foundation (for this she 'should' use a toothy watercolor paper IMO) AND THEN adhere it to a gallery wrapped canvas bigger in size to her image....that way she can have fun with the extra space and edges of the canvas and adhere her original to it and it doesn't need to be framed!

She can paint on the canvas first then just adhere her paper image to it! It works great!

And I recommend adhering with something like Liquitex Matt Medium gel (thick) for tooth to make it grab the canvas, then coat it with Liquitex Gloss medium gel (thick)........the medium goes opaque before it dries, so don't panic, it dries perfectly clear:)
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Oh....MUST ADD!!! Because the wax will be brittle when it's set, I highly recommend getting it on a stiff support ASAP......a good stretched gallery wrapped canvas offers some support but a panel board support which is like a gallery wrap would be ideal
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Wow. All I did was suggest a paint, or primer as it may be. Never intended to insult anyone or down play art of any form. Actually I do make some steel art. I had absolutely no idea why a person would do that with the crayons ( hence me guessing it was an art thing) and I don't understand art ( meaning I don't have any idea how a finished product starts or methods). Simmer
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First off, I like the wax on wax idea..sounds like it would work with a nice effect. I might have to try it myself sometime.
Second, I'm in the process of making a side-business with my art, and I wasn't offended the least bit by Phly's reply. It didn't sound negative, just stating that they don't understand art much.
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