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        07-16-2012, 02:41 PM
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    Can't wait
    Ditto that hunter
    I love ALL the pics!!!
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        07-16-2012, 02:50 PM
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    HAHAHAHA this made me laugh.... I would have totally been doing the same thing!!!
    I did this till I had to leave and go to my own horses and I then was doing it while riding with my phone ;-0
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        07-17-2012, 12:25 AM
      #743
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    I'd like to both apologize to you and congratulate you on having your horse back. I was one of the people, maybe the worst who doubted your story early on and called you on it.

    I didn't really believe that the colt was yours, and I am sorry for that.

    Congrats on having him home.
    Kudos to you Alex for stepping up. Shows what a Lady you are and what an honest heart you have.
         
        07-17-2012, 12:30 AM
      #744
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by bird3220    
    AlexS - thank you, but without you and the others who doubted me I wouldn't have had a different perspective about my approach to proving my side. I owe y'all a lot for that and I thank you for that.
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    I'm glad you posted that letter and I am very happy you kept your cool, your class, and your chutzpah! I think we all forget that sometimes, however "off" it may sound, there are injustices done to people who do not deserve it, and we have to take care with judging such situations.

    Congrats girl! I am very happy for you. Another underdog kicks butt!
         
        07-17-2012, 01:02 AM
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    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by bird3220    
    Alexs, my colt is MIA at this point, but the BO was served with papers yesterday that contain requirements of my colt no longer being hidden from me and ensuring my colts safety until a hearing for temporary custody. The only person my colt is allowed to be released to is me. Yes, I owned my mare before he was born.

    Yesterday was a very rough day. My mare is having a very hard time. I received a phone call at about 3 on from my friend where I am keeping her until all of this is sorted out and she had jumped a fence and has some fairly bad cuts on her. The neighbor had found her down the road standing outside his pasture of horses. He called her and brought her back and tied her to a tree. He cleaned her up and then went back home. About an hour later he called again because she had broken the Bronc halter and was back down by his pasture again. She has cuts on her knees and flanks and little nicks and missing hair all over her body. She has a pretty ugly gash on her face from the halter but it's just the hide rubbed off and I've put meds on everything and spoken to a vet about helping ease her stress. Last night I sat outside with her for hours. I loved on her and let her graze and eat and drink water and just tried to show her she was ok and could calm down. I stayed at my friends house in the living room where only a window is separating us. I was up and down all night checking on her. She was completely relaxed and got some sleep. She stood right outside the window for the majority of the night and now she's grazing again. Today a fried of mine is bringing one of his horses to put with her and see if that will ease some of her loneliness. At this point it's all a waiting game on the court and judge. I've done everything I can and I just pray that I can get my colt back soon.
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    oh this broke my heart. This entire thread is like reading a mystery. I'm not skipping to the end, but I'm praying this has already come to a good conclusion. This is tough but your perserverance is exemplary. My fingers are crossed.
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        07-17-2012, 01:35 AM
      #746
    Weanling
    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

    Woohoo
         
        07-17-2012, 02:04 AM
      #747
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by bird3220    
    GREAT question.... possibly one of my most favorite parts about court because I got to question him and only his lawyer was allowed to question me. When I testified I quoted the letter out loud. When he got on the stand I questioned him about the letter.

    I asked him the following questions, his answers follow the questions:

    Do you remember telling the police officer you had no interest in keeping my horses you just wanted the money you requested in the letter? "YES"

    Did you state that the $360 was for both horses? "YES"

    Did I pay you $360? "YES"

    Why when I returned to the property with the money for the horses did you then change your story and say that the $360 was only for my mare? "Because you brought the cops to my house and I was mad, so I decided not to give you Dyllon"

    Wait, so your saying that the letter stated the $360 was for both horses, but that night you told the police officer it was only for one horse? "YES"


    So basically he stated in court under oath that he lied to the police that night and only decided to give me one horse for $360. He also said he NEVER actually sold my colt and that he had always been on the property. I asked why he gave the $180 check the following day to the police to hand to me and he stated it was because he had decided not to give me the colt. I reiterated, but you just said you took $360 from me the night before. So you knew the night before you were doing the wrong thing and you just did it because you were mad that I brought the police to your house? YES, I was mad you brought the police and I decided not to give you the colt.......
    He is a stupid man. He and his sick wife lost a friend. If I got it right, he is suffering financially (as many of us are) and was starting to pilfer the feed you were providing for your horses. I'm guessing he figured you caught him when you asked him if your mare was eating a full bag a day. You were asking a genuine question but he thought you were letting him know you knew he was taking your feed. And so he hatched a plan to "make" you pay him more. I think it's because it was beyond him to honestly ask for a fair payment for boarding. He's all about using and being used - maybe all his life.

    You may have considered them your friends, but I don't think he ever considered you HIS friend. If he did, he would have said to you, "Sorry but we can't afford to keep your horses on our property without some kind of payment. We're having a hard time."

    He and maybe even his wife considered what you did, like bbqs and helping out "your due". And then when he thought you would start watching what he did, decided to up the ante.

    I don't think he was ever your friend. Another person said something like this: what you thought was friendship was really what YOU did for them (in exchange for what they figured they did for you). It's true, you boarded your horses there, but a more satisfactory arrangement could have been made any time they thought it was unfair. He could have negotiated a fair price and STILL KEPT A FRIEND. If he really wanted one.

    Some people trust other people, enjoy friendships. ANd some don't. And now you know...regardless of what they are or seem to be, get it in writing. THEN throw the bbq.

    I am SO Happy for you. I read every post in this thread. I am up way past my bedtime reading this, but it was worth it to see the pictures of Dyllan and his mum reunited and you, smiling. I am happy you got your teaching certification and got back your baby boy. And I got my happy ending. There was a moment there, about two pages back when I worried that maybe it would go the other way...I couldn't see how, but life gets like that sometimes. And thankfully it didn't.

    YAA! FOR THE GOOD GUYS!!
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        07-17-2012, 02:17 AM
      #748
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by chrislynnet    
    Those pictures made me cry (in a good way!).
    me too!
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        07-17-2012, 01:48 PM
      #749
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by wild old thing    
    He is a stupid man. He and his sick wife lost a friend. If I got it right, he is suffering financially (as many of us are) and was starting to pilfer the feed you were providing for your horses. I'm guessing he figured you caught him when you asked him if your mare was eating a full bag a day. You were asking a genuine question but he thought you were letting him know you knew he was taking your feed. And so he hatched a plan to "make" you pay him more. I think it's because it was beyond him to honestly ask for a fair payment for boarding. He's all about using and being used - maybe all his life.

    You may have considered them your friends, but I don't think he ever considered you HIS friend. If he did, he would have said to you, "Sorry but we can't afford to keep your horses on our property without some kind of payment. We're having a hard time."

    He and maybe even his wife considered what you did, like bbqs and helping out "your due". And then when he thought you would start watching what he did, decided to up the ante.

    I don't think he was ever your friend. Another person said something like this: what you thought was friendship was really what YOU did for them (in exchange for what they figured they did for you). It's true, you boarded your horses there, but a more satisfactory arrangement could have been made any time they thought it was unfair. He could have negotiated a fair price and STILL KEPT A FRIEND. If he really wanted one.

    Some people trust other people, enjoy friendships. ANd some don't. And now you know...regardless of what they are or seem to be, get it in writing. THEN throw the bbq.

    I am SO Happy for you. I read every post in this thread. I am up way past my bedtime reading this, but it was worth it to see the pictures of Dyllan and his mum reunited and you, smiling. I am happy you got your teaching certification and got back your baby boy. And I got my happy ending. There was a moment there, about two pages back when I worried that maybe it would go the other way...I couldn't see how, but life gets like that sometimes. And thankfully it didn't.

    YAA! FOR THE GOOD GUYS!!

    Thank you so much, and I agree, he never was really a friend. I laughed about the part about get in in writing and then throw a BBQ. My new boarding lease is great!!! Your posts make me smile. It's crazy to think people from all over the world sat and read through 75+ pages of this thread and were so supportive of me. When I joined this forum I had a rought first few days getting accustomed to reactions and posts, but this thread really made me appreciate Horse Forum and the love and support you find from other horse people from around the world. All the kind thoughts, prayers, and suggestions really helped me get my boy back!!!!
         
        07-17-2012, 03:01 PM
      #750
    Green Broke
    So glad it did go your way in court. Happy to see mare & foal back together, even if he isn't nursing-Mom will teach him a lot. Much better than you having to teach him how to be a horse. Hope you keep us posted on his progress & would love tosee pics of him as he grows up. You did such a fantastic job in court-you definetely deserve a "pat on the back". You may even have a future in the law!?!
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