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post #11 of 24 Old 05-18-2013, 08:34 AM
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post #12 of 24 Old 05-18-2013, 11:11 AM
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I was about to ask this. Did you get a contract or was it only verbal? Verbal contracts seem to dive downhill fast. Written contracts seem to hold up a lot better.

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post #13 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 12:33 AM Thread Starter
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You know I probably should have checked that earlier on when I was having problems. I could probably find it and see what I agreed to, in order to make sure I'm not the one that's technically wrong (even though she's the one changing everything up -.-)

And yea just like this is my first time owning a horse so the whole water thing worried me at first because I'd never seen that before at my old stable. I get that it's not a big deal, now.

I wasn't there when my horse was left outside, by the way. Anyway it's toned down a lot but there was a lot of frustration still in my system so I posted here because I wanted to discuss it, not to be scolded lol. I can tolerate it as long as she doesn't make me pay 450.

And it's expensive here because it's in the suburb. Even though it's pretty tiny and the amenities are kind of limited, it's the closest thing to our house. She charges a lot for everything just because of location. The only reason that frustrates me is because there's so much that needs to be fixed and she hasn't done anything with the money she has other than buy feed and renovate a room for her office. But I don't know her revenue, so I don't have too much room to talk.

I took a picture with my helmet off a few days ago on my horse and she yelled at me not to tag her barn in it. She's constantly moping about liabilities and I honestly think that if she believed she ran a safe facility that she wouldn't have to worry about pictures without helmets, but I see where she's coming from. She just irritates me as a person honestly. That's what makes it so difficult to deal with when things happen. Most of this is just me being really annoyed so of course I'm trying to find something to call her out on. I'm only 15 though, so throw in severe mood swings to your average barn frustrations and maybe you'll see where I'm coming from haha.
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post #14 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 03:27 AM
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I can understand the helmet thing -- it's the law for children under 18 to be wearing helmets, so yeah, it's a huge liability risk for her.
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post #15 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 12:00 PM
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I keep my horses at a barn that is unfortunately 25 miles away from me, BUT I know for a fact that they are well cared for. The BO has some pretty pricey reining horses that live in the barn, and his aging father feeds twice a day, hay and grain. And I can promise you come rain or sleet or whatever, that man is there feeding. He loves a schedule. The horses always have water, which is usually clean (sometimes there is some algae, but I don't mind cleaning it out, because they are my babies and to me, he's doing ME a favor by charging so little and taking such great care of my horses) they are well fed, fences and posts are maintained, and I have personally witnessed him chase a contractor off the property for some rude behavior. Sure, there are places closer to me that I could board, but I know that they are being WELL CARED FOR where they are at. That peace of mind is worth more than having them at a run down facility with a moody owner right next door.
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post #16 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 12:18 PM
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Liability is a huge deal. I know that you probably haven't had too much experience with that sort of thing, but all it takes is one person to do something stupid, and sue her for it, even if its not her fault and she loses everything. I watched a new girl taking a lesson once at a barn I worked at, she deliberately took a dive off the horse, claimed a concussion, and tried to sue the BO for something ridiculous, like reckless endangerment. She lost, because thankfully she had signed a release, and there were witnesses, myself included, that could testify that she had fallen off on purpose, and that even if she HAD fallen off accidentally, that it was within the normal risks involved with riding, not because the horse was a known danger. But under other circumstances, she very easily could have won that suit and put the BO out of business.

I would be willing to bet that if she had some girl putting the horses up that night yours got left out, that it wasn't on purpose. Its very likely the girl got distracted and missed or forgot your horse. It sucks, but it happens. If it becomes a more common problem, then it definitely needs to be addressed though.

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post #17 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 01:27 PM
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You made a comment about 'being a brat' I think you got it. You said she was responsible to 'turn the horse in / out when you were not there' . You were there, so it was up to you to put your horse up . Besides being lazy, that is just irresponsible. I don't blame the BO to get after you for no helmut, it may have just been for a photo, but in that short of a time span, something could have freaked your horse . If you see your horses water is dirty, dump it and clean it. I have one horse, that needs water dumped and cleaned every other day, and I have 50 gallon barrells. He washes his mouth out in it. It stinks. I have another horse, that only needs his water dumped and cleaned once a week. I guess you better start being nice to the BO , and if she does goes full care, you better see if you can get a job cleaning water buckets and stalls to keep your cost down.
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post #18 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 01:48 PM Thread Starter
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You made a comment about 'being a brat' I think you got it. You said she was responsible to 'turn the horse in / out when you were not there' . You were there, so it was up to you to put your horse up . Besides being lazy, that is just irresponsible. I don't blame the BO to get after you for no helmut, it may have just been for a photo, but in that short of a time span, something could have freaked your horse . If you see your horses water is dirty, dump it and clean it. I have one horse, that needs water dumped and cleaned every other day, and I have 50 gallon barrells. He washes his mouth out in it. It stinks. I have another horse, that only needs his water dumped and cleaned once a week. I guess you better start being nice to the BO , and if she does goes full care, you better see if you can get a job cleaning water buckets and stalls to keep your cost down.

Maybe instead of calling me a brat you should focus on my replies and the fact that I wasn't there the night this happened. But thank you for being rude, I really appreciate it(: Sure makes me feel welcome in the horse world.
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post #19 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 04:29 PM
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You know I probably should have checked that earlier on when I was having problems. I could probably find it and see what I agreed to, in order to make sure I'm not the one that's technically wrong (even though she's the one changing everything up -.-)

And yea just like this is my first time owning a horse so the whole water thing worried me at first because I'd never seen that before at my old stable. I get that it's not a big deal, now.

I wasn't there when my horse was left outside, by the way. Anyway it's toned down a lot but there was a lot of frustration still in my system so I posted here because I wanted to discuss it, not to be scolded lol. I can tolerate it as long as she doesn't make me pay 450.

And it's expensive here because it's in the suburb. Even though it's pretty tiny and the amenities are kind of limited, it's the closest thing to our house. She charges a lot for everything just because of location. The only reason that frustrates me is because there's so much that needs to be fixed and she hasn't done anything with the money she has other than buy feed and renovate a room for her office. But I don't know her revenue, so I don't have too much room to talk.

I took a picture with my helmet off a few days ago on my horse and she yelled at me not to tag her barn in it. She's constantly moping about liabilities and I honestly think that if she believed she ran a safe facility that she wouldn't have to worry about pictures without helmets, but I see where she's coming from. She just irritates me as a person honestly. That's what makes it so difficult to deal with when things happen. Most of this is just me being really annoyed so of course I'm trying to find something to call her out on. I'm only 15 though, so throw in severe mood swings to your average barn frustrations and maybe you'll see where I'm coming from haha.
Here is the REAL issue. Right there. And please note-I AM reading and using YOUR posts, so don't get all snotty (aka bratty) about it. You want full care and pay for partial. I suggest you read your contract and abide by it. I also suggest that you educate yourself about what your options are. If this BO sees this rant she may just ask you to leave. I sure would. You are not worth the hassle.

IMO-the other half of the issue is that you are 15, with little adult involvement other than to pay the bills. That usually spells trouble. My kids grew up with a whole bunch of brats whose parents throw $$ at them instead of time. Maybe mom and dad could take an interest if they haven't. Might bode better for you speaking to an adult BO. JMHO.

Sorry if you find this rude or "unwelcoming to the horse world", but honestly-re-read your post. It is the way you are coming across. You are welcome to come here to learn. You are 15. You have lots of that to do.
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post #20 of 24 Old 05-19-2013, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
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My parents are involved, but thanks for assuming things.
I'm not a brat. There's a 13 yr old girl here that has a 6000 Fallon Taylor barrel horse.
I have to get a job to support my hobby, my parents don't throw money at me.
I've been abiding by my contract as far as I know.
And I'm aware I'm not worth the hassle, but thanks for reminding me how little I am worth.
You guys can stop replying, I'm moving barns anyway. She's kicking all of her boarders out.
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