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        03-03-2014, 01:24 PM
      #41
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    Gah! Makes me realize how lucky I am to ride out of a no-drama-llamas barn.
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        03-03-2014, 01:47 PM
      #42
    Foal
    So let me get this straight.

    BO is a lawyer who had an issue with a totally different boarder, but didn't ask them to leave because she needs the money.

    She knowingly has a dangerous horse on her property that belongs to a family member who loaned her money to purchase the property and doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.

    And then she feels she has to cry to the other boarders about you.

    Do you really want to stay at a place like that?
         
        03-03-2014, 02:16 PM
      #43
    Foal
    I would probably stay if she put my horse in a different paddock & just ignore the gossip by some of the other boarders. It will blow over and they will find someone else to be the target of their gossip soon enough. LOL LOL
         
        03-03-2014, 02:49 PM
      #44
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by ladygodiva1228    
    So let me get this straight.

    BO is a lawyer who had an issue with a totally different boarder, but didn't ask them to leave because she needs the money.

    She knowingly has a dangerous horse on her property that belongs to a family member who loaned her money to purchase the property and doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.

    And then she feels she has to cry to the other boarders about you.

    Do you really want to stay at a place like that?
    Unless I'm wrong, the BO that is a lawyer is the BO of the barn Cinny MAY move to, not the barn they are currently at.
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        03-03-2014, 02:55 PM
      #45
    Green Broke
    I second Christine. I would put personal feelings aside and do what's best for Cinny. I wouldn't move my horse to a high stress barn, who is even prone to ulcers, because of some gossip. It will all blow over in the next couple weeks and things will be better with him in with your friend's horse. That's just my opinion, though.
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        03-03-2014, 03:17 PM
      #46
    Foal
    Its simple, don't let him do it. If you have to pop him in the face with a lead rope or a lunge whip so be it. Now as far as your horse, I highly doubt he was abused. It sounds more a respect issue then a trust issue. If your horse runs off then chase him. Make him run and run and run until he says oh no she's making me work and I don't like this. Then he'll turn and face you licking and chewing. Then just let him stand there and think for a moment. He's a horse not a baby so he needs to be treated like a horse. When the horses in a herd misbehave the lead mare will chase them away from the herd which means they will die without protection from the herd. That's what joining up is and why it works so well because horses are very good at self preservation and will do what it takes to stay with the lead mare. Don't let your horse misbehave. I don't care what the the other horse is doing, there's absolutely no excuse for him to run off when he knows you're trying to catch him. When another horse runs off he should be looking to you to see if he should run or not. Sounds like your horse thinks the other guy is in charge not you and that only makes the other horse more aggressive towards you and you will end up getting hurt if it continues. I'm pretty sure no one wants to see you get hurt, so if the bo won't separate them then you'll just have to take the time to correct the behavior yourself. This is going to take way more time then a few days a week. Being a stay at home mom is great because you can go work with the horse. Take your son with you it will be very good for him to be around horses. Ask a friend at the stables to stay with your son outside of the turn out pen and let him watch how mommy works with horses. It'll be great you can spend time with both your child and your horse and what's better then that
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        03-03-2014, 03:31 PM
      #47
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by ridemcowgirl069    
    Its simple, don't let him do it. If you have to pop him in the face with a lead rope or a lunge whip so be it. Now as far as your horse, I highly doubt he was abused. It sounds more a respect issue then a trust issue. If your horse runs off then chase him. Make him run and run and run until he says oh no she's making me work and I don't like this. Then he'll turn and face you licking and chewing. Then just let him stand there and think for a moment. He's a horse not a baby so he needs to be treated like a horse. When the horses in a herd misbehave the lead mare will chase them away from the herd which means they will die without protection from the herd. That's what joining up is and why it works so well because horses are very good at self preservation and will do what it takes to stay with the lead mare. Don't let your horse misbehave. I don't care what the the other horse is doing, there's absolutely no excuse for him to run off when he knows you're trying to catch him. When another horse runs off he should be looking to you to see if he should run or not. Sounds like your horse thinks the other guy is in charge not you and that only makes the other horse more aggressive towards you and you will end up getting hurt if it continues. I'm pretty sure no one wants to see you get hurt, so if the bo won't separate them then you'll just have to take the time to correct the behavior yourself. This is going to take way more time then a few days a week. Being a stay at home mom is great because you can go work with the horse. Take your son with you it will be very good for him to be around horses. Ask a friend at the stables to stay with your son outside of the turn out pen and let him watch how mommy works with horses. It'll be great you can spend time with both your child and your horse and what's better then that
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    I believe you need to catch up on the thread, as they are being separated. Chasing a horse that's scared of a whip with a whip will do nothing but make the horse more terrified of it. Advising she take her child around a draft horse that's nearly kicked her in the face multiple times is hardly good advice, either.
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        03-03-2014, 03:58 PM
      #48
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by doubleopi    
    Unless I'm wrong, the BO that is a lawyer is the BO of the barn Cinny MAY move to, not the barn they are currently at.
    Thank god I read the post wrong then. I thought the current BO where she is was the lawyer.
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        03-03-2014, 06:08 PM
      #49
    Green Broke
    Ladygodiva1228 yes, the lawyer is at the barn we may move to.

    Ridemcowgirl069 Wow. Um, you don't know my horse, you don't know the situation I got him from, you don't know what training my horse has had, and you don't know what we have been through with him. To say you doubt he was beaten and then give advice not knowing these things is a bit harsh. And by the way, at the first stable I had him at I caught the stable hand chasing him and hitting him with sticks to go in to his run. He was so well trained they only had to open the door but they thought it was funny to work the horse up so they run and buck as they left their stalls. This after I finally got him to allow men to touch him...which he wouldn't let men NEAR him when I first got him, especially men with whips.

    I do NOT treat MY horse like a baby. Never have, never will. I know about "herd mentality" I know about "joining up." My horse can play all the wonderful "games" trust me. I can have him in the arena, swing a rope around his bell, legs back, do figure 8's in the air around his ears, let it hit him. I can do the same things with a lunge whip. He respects me, I can lead him without a halter and lead rope. 8 year old 4H kids can work with him. He has respect. We are in a quadrille team that performs and shows. He plays well with others. We have done a lot of rehab on him.

    His problem is when I use anything to get that MONSTER off of me. Then he suddenly acts like I'm gong to beat him up. He trembles, he begins to sweat profusely, breath heavily, he bolts, and he has a scared silly look in his eyes. Trust me, this horse isn't "spooky" this is the ONLY time he gets freaked out. He literally runs scared. You can pop balloons at him, kids turn cartwheels in front of him, play tag under him and nothing. He isn't a spooky horse.

    And maybe he thinks the other guy is in charge but how would he think any other way? Monster has bullied, bitten, kicked at and nearly trampled every barn hand that has tried to handle him in the last 6 months. They keep hiring new ones and they all quit within a few weeks. He does this to me, he does it to the BO and he usually gets left alone because of it. So yeah, I see it. And my horse gets bullied by him too. Of course my horse is going to run when another horse starts cannon kicking him and biting him. And as long as Monster knows he can cow every human and horse that comes in to contact with him, it will continue.

    It is not my responsibility to change, train, or otherwise have to do anything with Monster. I also am not permitted to. He is NOT my horse, I do not have his owners permission to handle him, train, him, discipline him, etc.

    I have maybe 2 hours a day, 1 or 2 days a week to ride. That's it. It is my ONLY time to relax. My life away from the stable is so hectic and chaotic that I barely sleep, I'm lucky to have time for a shower (and when I do I'm usually to exhausted) or eat. My time is VERY PRECIOUS to me. I should not have to spend it dealing with a horse that is not mine.

    I should be able to go into the gate. Put my halter on my horse. Give him and his other turnout mates a pat and a hello. Then lead him out. No fighting, no chasing, no whips, no bruises the size of grapefruit from being bitten, no feeling like I'm only safe if I wear a vest and a helmet. It should be simple, easy and relaxed because after all, the only reason I am there is to have a couple hours of relaxed enjoyment with one of my best friends.
         
        03-03-2014, 06:39 PM
      #50
    Green Broke
    Oh, and being a stay at home mom, does NOT mean I get all the time in the world to play with my horse. It means I BARELY have time to see the horse. And no, I can NOT take my son to the stable, and especially not have him around Monster. My son is 4 and AUTISTIC. Don't know what that means, it means my life is not my own. My husband works for the railroad and is gone 36-48 hours at a time, home for 10 hours and called to work again with no days off. Most of the time he gets home AFTER my son goes to bed and leaves BEFORE he gets up. You can't simply get a sitter for an autistic child, you cant' simply take them any old where, and life at home isn't a lazy box of chocolates! It's driving to one therapy after another, peer classes to try to get him to socialize, training him to EAT...yes I said that, he does not know to chew his food yet. You have to have a constant eye on him because he has no sense of danger and yet the knowledge of most 10 year olds so he can unlock doors, figure out how to stack things to unlock doors if you make the lock high. It's a full 24 hour job, you don't get to sit down, you don't get to eat, you barely get to use the **** toilet.

    You have an interesting point of view of the world around you.
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