Board facility charging freelance coaches - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Barns, Boarding, and Farms > Horse Boarding

Board facility charging freelance coaches

This is a discussion on Board facility charging freelance coaches within the Horse Boarding forums, part of the Barns, Boarding, and Farms category
  • Powered by vBulletin grooming & boarding
  • Does trainer pay a ring fee if giving lessons on private barn

Like Tree7Likes

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    05-11-2012, 01:29 PM
  #11
Yearling
If the trainer is on the property then the barn must have insurance to cover them
AnitaAnne likes this.
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    05-11-2012, 01:35 PM
  #12
Trained
Around here there are a lot of "outside" instructors/trainers and they don't mind a reasonable fee. To them it is still cheaper than the liability insurance and hassle of doing business on their own property.
AnitaAnne likes this.
     
    05-11-2012, 03:00 PM
  #13
Foal
Great responses, great perspectives, appreciate all the comments. I think Maura, you said it best, not nearly enough $$ in boarding, and coaches should pay a ring fee. Dreamcatcher arabians, I agree that its good to limit the coaches for that reason. I despise barn politics, and some of these coaches who freelance really come with interesting personalities.......I really want it to be a serious business and run as respectfully as possible.
     
    05-13-2012, 01:30 PM
  #14
Foal
A barn typically has an inhouse trainer. If that trainer does not cover certain disciplines that boarders are looking for then yes, outside trainers should be allowed. It keeps a wider variety of boarders attracted to the barn.

Our barn allows this, without fee, if it meets the above criteria. In other words there is no conflict of interest. But there is no exclusive use of the arena. As a boarder I appreciate this, because it helps keep my lesson fees lower. I understand the reasons for charging a trainer, and again I appreciate that my boarding facility doesn't. I'm sure if there was a trainer conflict or other issues with the non-resident trainer that the outside trainer would be blocked.

The barn can charge a trainer a "usage" fee, but most likely that trainer will just turn around and pass this off on your boarders who are taking the lessons.
     
    05-13-2012, 03:18 PM
  #15
Started
In my experience, all stables charge a fee for any trainers. I have had prices from $5-15 per session. I much prefer a stable that does not have a trainer onsite. In my experience, onsite trainers were not highly trained enough to suit my learning needs, they are more for begining riders or focused on training horses instead of training people to ride their horses.

I would never stay at a barn that did not allow outside trainers.

But then that was in my highly competitive Dressage days, you may have a different type of boarder. Mostly I traveled to the instuctor's farms for lessons. Four to six hours round trip including the 45 minute lesson, plus gas, food & $80-120 per lesson fee.

I think an extra 5-15 dollars to have the trainer come to the farm is a bargin...
     
    05-13-2012, 03:59 PM
  #16
Yearling
One rather busy barn I used to board at allowed outside trainers without a fee, but they did not have exclusive use of the arena. Boarders could happily share it and ride around the lessons. This was the case with the in-house instructors as well. The barn owners also reserved the right to boot anyone who was causing problems. For instance, I know of one outside trainer who got barred from teaching there due to repeated instances of her hassling other boarders who were using the arena while she was giving lessons, and people starting to feel uncomfortable using the ring as she would shout at them if she thought they were in her way.
     
    05-13-2012, 04:37 PM
  #17
Started
Quote:
Originally Posted by thesilverspear    
One rather busy barn I used to board at allowed outside trainers without a fee, but they did not have exclusive use of the arena. Boarders could happily share it and ride around the lessons. This was the case with the in-house instructors as well. The barn owners also reserved the right to boot anyone who was causing problems. For instance, I know of one outside trainer who got barred from teaching there due to repeated instances of her hassling other boarders who were using the arena while she was giving lessons, and people starting to feel uncomfortable using the ring as she would shout at them if she thought they were in her way.
This is a very good point! There is nothing worse than having an instuctor think they own the place when on the premisses. Some of the worst I have seen hogging everything are onsite trainers. The instructors need to stay in one area of the arena or something, unless it is a clinic. On clinic days, part of the rider & auditor fee goes to the hosting stable.

The best facilities have clearly stated rules regarding boarder & instructor usage, and any fees. Same thing with horse shoers, no extra fees usually, but no exclusive rights either.
     
    05-13-2012, 08:46 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Boarding places are so competitive here (80 billion of them) that if they exclude outside trainers or charge a fee, you'll spot 80 bazillions desperate ads from them for more boarders on Craigslist.

My dressage trainer travels but only if there are multiple people taking lessons one after the other on the same day. I board with my old trainer who moved me on to her trainer after I "outgrew" her, so she, I and her neighbor all have our lessons on the same day. Works for us! I don't have "exclusive" use of the arena during my lessons but since the only people who use the arena are the ones that have lessons with this trainer, we don't ride during someone else's lesson out of courtesy.
AnitaAnne likes this.
     
    05-13-2012, 09:06 PM
  #19
Yearling
Why are they seeking outside training if you have 3 onsite trainers? If it's a different discipline fair enough and I would charge a fee to cover liability
     
    05-24-2012, 09:02 PM
  #20
Weanling
I think it matters on if it's private or public. Public barns offer lessons and use their own instructors, and it's counter-productive to allow outside instructors in. I hate public barns because I can't stand the constant traffic of lessons.
Private barns usually do not offer lessons to the public, if they offer lessons at all. Most private barns allow outside instructors in (as long as the instructor has insurance), since the private barn doesn't do a major lesson program. They do not charge for outside instructors. I prefer private barns because they're quieter, and I can use my own instructor.
     

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Contemplating charging Flat Board rate--- marygoroundsporthorses Horse Boarding 14 01-05-2012 05:54 PM
Freelance Grooming hopeforhorses Horse Grooming 2 11-03-2011 01:57 AM
Would you use a freelance groom? sazzy21 Horse Talk 0 10-22-2011 12:50 PM
Coaches Jhinnua Horse Riding 0 06-01-2010 06:26 PM
Training facility not board? My2Geldings Horse Talk 7 12-30-2008 10:15 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0