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        10-16-2013, 05:16 AM
      #11
    Foal
    I always advise who is watching my horses if I'm going away. After issues at another place where a friend of a boarder, that the BO had met before, was caught helping herself to (ie stealing) other boarders equipment I won't let anyone look after my horses unless the BO knows they will be on the property. Not only better security but also prevents false accusations
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        10-16-2013, 08:10 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    I wanted to add that I absolutely expect my BO to try to contact me if someone shows up unannounced to mess with my horse. I would be LIVID if she let someone do anything with my horse without being sure I was okay with it.
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        10-16-2013, 08:11 AM
      #13
    Showing
    I'm also of the opinion of giving notice for something like that. I would want/expect notice and would be irked if someone strange just showed up and went out to my barn. That said, I'm a private barn and only have 2 boarders, might be different at a big barn that is exclusively a boarding barn. I see too much risk with someone unknown coming in. How is the BO to know who that person is and what their intentions are unless told by the owner? I wouldn't want someone feeding anything to any horse without knowing it was okay. What might be fine for the horse they came to see might not be okay for mine or someone else's that they chose to feed too just because they were there. Not to mention the liability, if no waiver is signed many insurance companies won't cover and where does that leave the BO? Not to mention things like carrying in a communicable disease from another barn, how would one know if said stranger hadn't been at a barn with a strangles outbreak or, or, or.

    Our barn was cleaned out in the mid 90s (tack room & lockers were emptied) - culprit, friend of a person that had came to buy a horse from my grandfather. Thankfully insurance covered the almost 20k worth of stuff that was stolen but goes to show you can't trust people even if they seem to have good intentions on the surface.

    Aside from the liability & risk, I would think it common courtesy. If I were the boarder, I'd want to let the BO know for the same reasons I'd like to know as the BO. I would expect a BO to be leery of a stranger they'd never met stopping and saying 'hey, going out to feed one of the horses some crackers" if they'd not been notified that would be taking place. It takes all of a minute to text or make a quick call.
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        10-16-2013, 09:27 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    There are still people (that are good citizens) that Don't Text!
         
        10-16-2013, 10:01 AM
      #15
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by verona1016    
    I'm not saying that the first thought to come to anyone's mind when Grandma end up in the hospital and it looks like she doesn't have much longer is "Oh, better get Sally to go make sure my pony is OK!" But after you've been gone a couple days you do start to worry about your horse. And you may ask your friend who's gone with you to the barn many times to go give him some love until you get back. And not all of us are best friends with our BO's, so while we may think to let them know we've gone out of town unexpectedly, we may not also think to tell them that Sally is going to stop by at some point.
    If you have that much time to put through a thought process, then you can take two seconds to call the BO and let them know a stranger will be coming to check on your horse. It's not rocket science.

    I would not board at a barn where there weren't checks and balances like this. You don't want any Joe Schmoe to be able to wander around the barn, because there are some crazies in the world who will do things to animals for no reason.

    The safety of my horse is important to me and no one is to handle my horse unless it has been approved by me.

    So going back to the OP's question, I wouldn't necessarily label it "rude" or "invasive" but I think in that case, the horse's owner needs to give the BO notice that it is okay for X friend to feed her horse Cheez-Its. If I was that BO, her friend would not step foot in the barn until I heard from the boarder herself. (Unless the BO wants to be liable for a law suit, because we know America is sue-happy.) I would expect the BO to want notices like this, to protect themselves legally.

    And I agree. Anyone who sets foot in the barn needs to sign a liability waiver. Again, the BO needs to protect themselves too.
         
        10-16-2013, 10:12 AM
      #16
    Started
    Yep, even in that family emergency situation you can pick up the phone and notify the barn owner. If you have to pick up the phone once and call your friend, you can easily swing another 30 second conversation to notify the owner.
         
        10-16-2013, 04:17 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
    In all honestly, my BO would probably force them off the property and give me 30 days to leave with my horse.

    She lives there and not only are other boarders' horses there, so are her own, plus her other animals.

    I text her and let her know when I'm coming out myself because I think it's common courtesy, she does live there. She wouldn't be happy with me sending someone she doesn't know out to see my horse though, and while she'd deal with it, she'd make it known she wasn't happy. Though, I trust her to make sure my horse is alright if I can't show up for an extended period of time. If she didn't refuse to work woth Alahna because she doesn't like her, I'd have no problem leaving her there for a year with just updates from my BO. We're like a family where I'm at, and I'd most definitely take that over a big barn that has a ton of boarders and an absolutely beautiful facility where it would be normal for that to happen.
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        10-16-2013, 04:33 PM
      #18
    Started
    Many places have owners sign a form that says, essentially, that Joan Doe is officially authorized by the owner to come and care for horsey in their stead. I have one that authorizes three people, other than myself, to care for my horse (including handle, groom, feed, etc) so that if something happens, I know I can make sure pony-boy is taken care of.

    On the flip side, I have take care of a friend's horse and caught, groomed, and tacked him up at a couple of places and that I know of, she had never signed anything officially authorizing this privilege. To my knowledge, it was a non-issue at both of those places and I am reasonably sure only one of the two BO had a head's up to expect it.
         
        10-16-2013, 04:54 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Since I board at a small facility, I would definitely call the BO before sending anyone except for my SO, who they know well, out to take care of my horse. I would hope that they would never allow some random person to show up and mess with my horse.

    At my last barn, which was also fairly small, the owners knew that there was one friend who was allowed to come out and mess with my horse and her baby whenever he wanted. He would swing by whenever he was in the area without even telling me until after the fact most of the time, but that was fine because I had authorized it. If other people in the barn were allowed to play with a horse that wasn't theirs while the owner was away, they would always inform the entire barn via our barn's FB group, who was allowed to play with or even ride their horse. It just makes everything easier and safer with clear communication.

    If I were you and this is a first time thing, I would talk to the horse's owner and let her know that she needs to inform you before someone comes out without her, otherwise you won't let them touch the horse. Explain that the reason for this is concern for the safety of her horse. I'm sure she will understand that she wouldn't want just any shmuck to be able to walk in off the street and mess with her horse. It may even be that the friend came out without her knowing she was going to. Many non-horsey people don't understand that it's not ok to just pet and play with a horse without permission simply because they know the owner.
         
        10-16-2013, 05:15 PM
      #20
    Green Broke
    I guess it's a matter of different perspective- I board at a 76 stall barn. People come and go all the time. I've never boarded at a very small facility, but I imagine if I did I would probably be much more used to letting the BO know every little thing that's going on with my horse. For example, I would never think to notify them if I sent DH to refill my horse's hay nets for me while I was traveling for work. DH isn't a horsey person, he doesn't usually go to the barn with me, and is in no way part of the boarding contract I have with them. He's been there enough that the BO and trainer would recognize him, but in reality they have no idea if he's there at my request or if we just had a big fight and he's going to take revenge by feeding my horse something bad.

    OP didn't say if she has a small barn with only 1 boarder or a large barn with many people, and she didn't say that the owner was the only one allowed out based on their boarding contract. But she did say she recognized the friend who came, so she must have been there before with the horse's owner. This would imply that if she required waivers for visitors, this person would have already signed one. This isn't some random person the BO has never seen before.

    I do agree that if it's a small facility, especially if it's gated to prevent people from coming in unannounced (and the owner has shared that gate code with her friend!), that it would be a courtesy for the owner to let the BO know. In a very small facility where there are only maybe 1 or 2 boarders, it might be a requirement. But we don't know enough about the actual situation to make that call.
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