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    03-29-2012, 07:48 AM
  #31
Foal
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Originally Posted by AQHSam    
It depends on your original agreement. I keep my horse in a similar situation. The property owner is a horse trainer/seller but it is not his sole income. He is not a boarding facility. The only horses are his private horses, the horses he is working with and training, and those that are for resale. It is myself and 1 other person who keeps a horse on a monthly basis for board.

The expectation in my board is that he will provide wormings and ticking. He also keeps an eye on my horse for overall health, but now that Sam is in the pasture, it is a distant eye. He will also provide shots, which I reimburse him for and if the farrier is coming out and it is time will include Sam in the appointment. I pay for shoes.

He does not have to tell me first if he is going to vaccinate, worm, or detick Sam. I told him in the beginning to just include my horse in his routine and let me know the expenses. I showed up on Sunday and he deticked all the horses and Sam was included. I am at the barn often enough that I am aware when the farrier is coming and will identify if I want Sam included or not.

On one hand, it is good that you have someone who is paying attention to your horse in your absence. She may be very worried that you will think she is not doing her job so she comes over the top.

Does she expect you to self-care for your horse? That may be the other reason she is contacting you. She may be happy to board your horse, but if you are absent she feels that the horse is being neglected and uncared for.
There was no agreement, per se. This was very informal; like I said before she's a neighbor down the road that let's me board on her amazing property.
But I don't think that's the point. Either way, I don't think anyone should touch anyone else's animals without a heads up, at best. I understand he needs to be vaccinated, that's not the issue. But I think it's akin to vaccinating someone else's child that you're babysitting.

To answer your question, I pay for full board. Also, like I mentioned earlier, I live a half mile down the road from her. I never go for more than two days without seeing my horse, so if I don't ride for three days, that's not neglecting him.
     
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    03-29-2012, 07:52 AM
  #32
Foal
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Originally Posted by AQHSam    
Thanks MN Tigerstripes. I was picturing banging as in smashing!

Well, I learned two things today.

1) Google is your friend even when you think it is a typo.

2) Horses can have bangs too.

Not sure what your breed of horse is, OP. I completely understand why you are upset with the land owner. (How much did she take off??) That's the nice thing about boarding from a guy I guess. He barely grooms his horse's saddle areas, no worries about him playing barber on my horse's tail!

Actually, he is not that bad about grooming his horses. And, I did ask him to shave the inside of Sam's ears when he removed some nasty tick scabs and put ointment in them. And he can put a really nice face trim on a horse. But, he is less inclined to take the initiative of someone else's horse without a request first.
Don't get me wrong, I think the look of banged tails looks nice! I just don't think it's necessary at this point in time for him. She also suggested I pull his mane; and that's part of my issue - the things she rails on me for are entirely subjective and aesthetic things. If I don't want to pull my horse's mane or bang his tail, I'm not going to. He's my horse.

But, at the end of the day, I'll probably stay there. I'm going to look at a bigger barn this weekend, but if it seems like too much of a pain in the butt, I'll just keep him where he is :)

Thank you everybody, for your thoughts!!
     
    03-29-2012, 09:26 AM
  #33
Trained
Gotta love the strange ideas people have about how your horse should look.

My friends all think I'm nuts for banging Soda's tail, but it grows so fast and he ends up ripping it out otherwise. One of them thinks I'm nuts for putting shoes on him, the other thinks I'm nuts for waiting so long to do it. One thinks I need to move him to a bosal, the other thinks I should try a twisted snaffle to get his attention when we're out on the trail. Then there's the groundwork argument and the argument about getting his head down vs getting him to collect.

You probably get the drift right? Horse people are all at least partially crazy and mostly convinced that their way is always the right way. I've learned a lot through the years by just letting crap roll off of my back and asking questions when I don't necessarily agree with what someone does with their horse.

If you aren't showing I think it's unnecessary to pull your horse's mane, I can see the tail if he's pulling it out or getting it full of burrs. Sounds like your BO is one of those people who thinks every horse should be pretty close to perfectly turned out constantly. Nothing really wrong with that, just different. I'm sure she'll be ok with you wanting to leave your horse's mane/tail alone as long as you tell her, she might think you're crazy though!
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    03-29-2012, 09:45 AM
  #34
mls
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Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes    
Horse people are all at least partially crazy and mostly convinced that their way is always the right way.

Sounds like your BO is one of those people who thinks every horse should be pretty close to perfectly turned out constantly. Nothing really wrong with that, just different.
Crazy - horse people, mothers of small children, co-workers . . .

I'm guessing the BO simply has a lot of time on her hands and thinks she is helping. Talk to her. Communication is a two way street.
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    03-29-2012, 09:52 AM
  #35
Yearling
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Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes    
Gotta love the strange ideas people have about how your horse should look.

My friends all think I'm nuts for banging Soda's tail, but it grows so fast and he ends up ripping it out otherwise. One of them thinks I'm nuts for putting shoes on him, the other thinks I'm nuts for waiting so long to do it. One thinks I need to move him to a bosal, the other thinks I should try a twisted snaffle to get his attention when we're out on the trail. Then there's the groundwork argument and the argument about getting his head down vs getting him to collect.

You probably get the drift right? Horse people are all at least partially crazy and mostly convinced that their way is always the right way. I've learned a lot through the years by just letting crap roll off of my back and asking questions when I don't necessarily agree with what someone does with their horse.

If you aren't showing I think it's unnecessary to pull your horse's mane, I can see the tail if he's pulling it out or getting it full of burrs. Sounds like your BO is one of those people who thinks every horse should be pretty close to perfectly turned out constantly. Nothing really wrong with that, just different. I'm sure she'll be ok with you wanting to leave your horse's mane/tail alone as long as you tell her, she might think you're crazy though!
My barn owner who I bought my horse from said, "Put 10 horse people in a room and you will receive ten completely different tips on how to care for your horse."

He is pretty good about prefacing all opinionated direction with, "this is how I choose to do it, but others may disagree."
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    03-29-2012, 12:15 PM
  #36
Green Broke
Did you pay for the vaccinations ? I wouldnt if it wasnt part of the lease or I didnt agree ahead of time. Just say thinks for getting my horse vaccinated but in the future you will be handling your own horses medical and grooming needs.
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    03-29-2012, 01:20 PM
  #37
Trained
There are a couple of things here where I feel you should ask the BO about them. For instance, when she banged his tail, was it just a wild hair or did he catch it and pull out a big wad and she was trying to make it look nice again? If it was a wild hair I'd come unglued and tell her that no way, not ever was she to touch my horse's tail again. I'd also have it braided and up to protect it, but us Arabian people are kind of crazy that way anyhow. If I didn't want to pull the mane, I'd just tell her that I prefer the mane long and would not be pulling it. She's suggesting what she thinks is great for her ideal horse, that's not your ideal horse, so just tell her you don't like that and it's not what you want.

As for the vaccinations, are you overdue? Here at my place you'd be welcome to do the vaccinations on your own, but I have specific dates by when they have to be done or I'll do them. When a new horse comes in (rare, I'm full), I make sure they are UTD on everything before they come in, then I let the boarder know that by 3/15 of every year, they have to be boostered. I send out an e-mail on 2/15 reminding everyone they have 30 days to get their horses vaccinated and to give me proof, either the vet bill or the stickers off their vaccine bottles and I mark each horse on the white board in the feed barn as to what they got and when they got it. Anyone who is blank on 3/15, I have the vet out to do all boarder horses that haven't been attended to, and I do my own. She may not be that organized, but I suspect that's what she's thinking.

Unless directed otherwise in writing, I do every horse on the place when the farrier is out and he direct bills the clients. I would never do shoes or ride a boarder's horse without previous direction and I certainly wouldn't take off on a camping/trail trip with one! That's waaaay over the mark. I know this doesn't apply to this case but that shocked me.

As for the riding thing, it's up to you whether you EVER go out and see your horse, but it sounds like she likes you and likes to see you out there. But, if her e-mails bother you, block her.

Here, you can have a locking tack truck or bring in your own locker and put it in the feed barn if you like, but if it ain't locked, no guarantees on someone borrowing it. I try to furnish basics, like shampoo, fly spray, spare brushes and combs and hoof picks but not everyone is good about staying out of other folks stuff.
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    03-29-2012, 01:43 PM
  #38
Yearling
I liked your comments Dreamcatcher.

OP, are you a new horse owner? It really does sound as if she is trying to help. Some people are more helpful than others. I had a neighbor that was very helpful. Sometimes.... it required extra effort on my part to fix what she thought she was helping with.

Good luck. Let us know how the convo with her turns out.
     

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