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    09-07-2012, 12:48 PM
  #41
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Please remember that the 30 day protects you as well! I had a BO's husband get pissed that I was selling my mare (even through I paid the 30 days just in case) and demanded that I remove my other horse as well. I had no contract so there was nothing I could do an in the middle of a rainy afternoon had to beg a friend to take my horse until I could find a new barn.
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    09-07-2012, 01:38 PM
  #42
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The point I'm really trying to make here is, WHAT on earth is up with all these crazy BOs? It's a business for cryin out loud, treat it as such. I have clients, they are not friends though we're friendly, and they certainly are not family members though they say my barn is "home". They pay me for the use of facilities, and for me to care for their horses the way THEY want them cared for. Especially if someone is giving notice who is not dissatisfied with my services, why on earth would I then try to MAKE them unhappy? This business is way too small for word of mouth to be all bad.

In the case of an unhappy boarder who gives notice, why would you then try to make them more unhappy than they are? Wouldn't you rather they left quietly with no fuss and drama? I sure would. I try to give good value for the $$$ that I get. I can't always please everyone, though I try. If I want them gone, I make it really easy for them to leave. In this economy, it also includes waiving 30 day notice, maybe forgiving a little back board, I am not filing liens right now at all. If someone gets behind, I just tell them they need to find a new place to go and I let it all be, I don't want a fight. I don't lock horses in stalls, change gate codes or get in fights on my place. And I especially don't take it out on the horse.
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    09-07-2012, 01:50 PM
  #43
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Originally Posted by natisha    
In WI you can't hold someone's horse even for lack of payment. The BO must release the horse & take the issue to Small Claims Court if they wish. Most don't bother.
A friend of mine actually re-possessed a horse for a boarder's non-payment in WI. She originally sold the horse to the girl, and in the contract if the girl didn't pay X number of months board (I can't remember how many, but I think it was something like six consecutive months), the ownership of the horse reverted back to the BO.

Not sure if it would've held up in court, but the horse owner didn't raise a fuss. She'd lost interest and didn't really care what happened to the mare.

I think that is a much better scenario than what some BO's do: stop feeding the horse if the owner doesn't pay. I bought an Arab that had this happen to him: the owner didn't pay board, the horse didn't get fed. He was in TERRIBLE condition.
     
    09-07-2012, 02:25 PM
  #44
Yearling
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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79    
A friend of mine actually re-possessed a horse for a boarder's non-payment in WI. She originally sold the horse to the girl, and in the contract if the girl didn't pay X number of months board (I can't remember how many, but I think it was something like six consecutive months), the ownership of the horse reverted back to the BO.

Not sure if it would've held up in court, but the horse owner didn't raise a fuss. She'd lost interest and didn't really care what happened to the mare.

I think that is a much better scenario than what some BO's do: stop feeding the horse if the owner doesn't pay. I bought an Arab that had this happen to him: the owner didn't pay board, the horse didn't get fed. He was in TERRIBLE condition.
Had the same issue at a barn I ran. In the contract it basically stated that after 4 months of non-payment (board) BO would take posession of the horse until/unless A) owner made AND followed a re-payment agreement or B) Owner signed officially signed over ownership of horse to BO. If no attempt by the horse owner was made to rectify the situation by 30 days, BO officially had ownership of the horse and the right to sell the horse to recover any costs occured in caring for the horse.

After 6 months of no payment, and the barn providing an ER vet call, the BO sold the horse for the $$ he was out (over $2,00). He still took a loss, as he only got $1,00 for the horse.

The original owner (the one who didn't pay) one day decided that she wanted her horse back, took the BO to court, and sued him for property theft. We thought it would be an open and shut case. Not so much!

Ownership rights were returned to the original owner, so the new owner was forced to return the horse (of course it was a little kid), and the BO had to return the $$ he recieved for the purchase to the buyers, since in WI you can't use the horse as payment (I can't think of the official wording right now). But, thankfully the theft charges were dismissed.

In the end the BO's options were to file with small claims to get his $$, or drop the whole thing. Obviously, the non-payer was asked to leave, but the BO never pursuid it, way to big a headache.

So here's my little warning for BO's about contract's...make sure your terms are legit for the state you're in.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread
     
    09-07-2012, 02:35 PM
  #45
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
The point I'm really trying to make here is, WHAT on earth is up with all these crazy BOs? It's a business for cryin out loud, treat it as such. I have clients, they are not friends though we're friendly, and they certainly are not family members though they say my barn is "home". They pay me for the use of facilities, and for me to care for their horses the way THEY want them cared for. Especially if someone is giving notice who is not dissatisfied with my services, why on earth would I then try to MAKE them unhappy? This business is way too small for word of mouth to be all bad.

In the case of an unhappy boarder who gives notice, why would you then try to make them more unhappy than they are? Wouldn't you rather they left quietly with no fuss and drama? I sure would. I try to give good value for the $$$ that I get. I can't always please everyone, though I try. If I want them gone, I make it really easy for them to leave. In this economy, it also includes waiving 30 day notice, maybe forgiving a little back board, I am not filing liens right now at all. If someone gets behind, I just tell them they need to find a new place to go and I let it all be, I don't want a fight. I don't lock horses in stalls, change gate codes or get in fights on my place. And I especially don't take it out on the horse.
Amazing - there are a few BOs on this very board I would hate to board with based off their words here.
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    09-07-2012, 03:21 PM
  #46
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Originally Posted by busysmurf    
So here's my little warning for BO's about contract's...make sure your terms are legit for the state you're in.
Even better - have an attorney AND your insurance agent review your contract AND POSTED rules.
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    09-07-2012, 03:39 PM
  #47
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I've never had a problem giving notice, but I've never had a crazy BO or BM with my horse. Only ignorant ones.
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    09-07-2012, 03:59 PM
  #48
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This thread, and others about bad barns/BO situations has me so worried/paranoid about boarding my horse. He's being delivered next week and this will be the first time in all the years i've owned him that he'll be boarded at a real boarding facility (not my home or the home of a friend). I had him at a backyard boarding facility for a month once and it was enough to make me scarred for life. I toured at least 2 dozens barns here before I picked the one he's going to and i've went to the barn three different times to make sure I was getting an accurate representation of the place. Man I hope it really is all I hope it is because threads like this certainly are worrisome.
     
    09-07-2012, 04:09 PM
  #49
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I will say that it's unfair to take others' experiences and let them color your own experience. Take it as more of an idea of what to look for. Chances are, you'll be fine. I've never personally known anyone in my 16 years in horses who had a bad experience moving their horse.
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    09-07-2012, 04:10 PM
  #50
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What is your contract like, if you don't mind my asking?

And what led you to choose this one over the others?

I like gathering information, if you couldn't tell. And I'd like to know what people look for in a boarding facility, so I know what to expect if I'm ever in that position.
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