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post #1 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 03:32 AM Thread Starter
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debating moving...any opinions?

so i ave been at my current boarding facility for a year...its huge..with a huge arena..round pen..three sets of stalls(pipe corrals with slight over hang for wind break) etc..what im not too fond of is nobody to ride with..all the boarders tend to just board there and rarely come see theyre horses. there are automatic waterers..which makes it hard to tell if the horse is drinking enough..AND they grow gross sewage smelling mold during the usually the one having to clean them ..ALL of them out beings the BO and stable hands dont do it usually, the pipe corrals are a desent size..but there is no turn out..and with arabians..that can be a pain as my kids are always full of energy...the BO refuses to feed suppliments/put fly masks on horses unless extra is payed for it..also..they have two small dogs that run amok on the property and chase horses..they even snap at mine when i am leading him to the arena or round pen..surprised he has not kicked them i do like this place due to the space it has..and the fact it has a large arena. also some of the horses there..not very well cared 2 year old gelding has been in his stall for a full year because the owner hasnt come out..his feet are so over grown that every time i see him i am tempted to trim them just to put my own mind at ease...this place charges $200 per horse

i went today to look at a new place..a privately owned place..smaller than where i am now..owned by a retired older couple who seem to have a lot of experience..they have no boarders currently but the wife said she would go riding with me any time, she has an arab mare and a rescued quarter horse..both of which when i saw them look VERY healthy and are super friendly..good feet and weight on em..lovely coats etc...the grounds themselves are VERY clean..didnt see any manure whatsoever lol..they use water buckets for water to check on how much horses drink and they net out debris fom the buckets 4 times a day as well as do full cleaning of the buckets..scrubbing etc..daily...they feed a mix of grass hay and alfalfa three times a day and do not charge extra for feeding suppliments..meds etc and offered to groom my horses at no extra cost when i am not there as my current place, they have pipe corrals..but with full roofs and sides and attached to the stalls are turn outs the horses have 24/7 access to..there is no arena but im guessing the HUGE turn out attached to the medium sized one on one stall could double as the horses would be in stalls next to one another with their own private turn out..i would also get keys to the property as they have security gates..and keys to my own personal tack room..the bo has even given me permission to use any of her tack beings i do not have a saddle yet...she charges $195 per horse...this place also has a large round pen..but again this place is only about half the size of the current place i am at...unfortunatly the bo at my current place pretty much has been trying to guild trip me into staying..and i am easily guilt tripped...this older couple seems very nice and accepting and is willing to do alot for my this point..i am just super confused as to what to any advice would be awesome at this point
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post #2 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 04:49 AM
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MOVE! The new place sound so much better than the current one - and why on earth should you be guilt tripping about wanting to move your horses to a BETTER SITUATION? Do what is best for them, not what somebody who just wants your money tells you to do!

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post #3 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 04:56 AM
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I am unsure what your typical weather is like in California! Will you be able to ride outside most of the year? What do you typically do with your horse.. i.e. trail riding, western, english, training in a school etc..

I would personally move. If you're not happy, it reflects hugely on your horse and your life through stress. I made a similair move to a much better yard, and it was amazing how much weight came off my shoulders, and I felt a lot happier k nowing my horse was well cared for.

However, I have nothing against automatic water cleaners, and cleaned mine out daily myself. Takes two minutes of my day.

You should get a contract drawn up for the new place, as if they are not used to dealing with private owners it covers your backside as much as theres, so you can draw out what is in your $195 a month.
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post #4 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 06:45 AM
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So far I heard nothing very positive in your current barn and a lot of nice things in the prospective barn.
Do you "need" to have a huge riding arena if you are going to be one of only a few riders, maybe the only rider other than the retired owner?
If the space for riding is adequate for your discipline and chosen work pattern..

Do not let a owner guilt you into anything...ever think she is quilting you to stay because she knows there is better care and facilities out there than they are providing...

Your horses are your responsibility and no one but you is going to advocate for their well-being, safety and needs met like you.

Sounds to me like your current barn has some serious flaws, like filthy waterers, that would be of my utmost concern.
Dogs chasing feet...who pays the vet bill for horse or dog if the unthinkable happens?

I heard stalls, attached private turnout for your horses, large turnout with additional space and utilizing also as a riding ring, round pen, supplements given, fly masks on & off, accommodating owners living on premises who are knowledgeable and CLEAN FACILITY...a riding companion and currently private...

On top of that a few $$ less a month...
when are you leaving?

Go back and check it again...but think my horses would have a new home by February if possible.

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post #5 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 07:22 AM
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Please don't let yourself fall for a guilt trip-your barn sounds terrible and it's pretty obvious you should move. If it were me, after my horse was off the property I would hand the BO of the old place a detailed list of problems with her place that caused you to move-especially the neglect of the horses.
Although I doubt it, she may wake up and make an effort to improve things with her "business".
As DuffyDuck says, please do not board at the new place with out a lease agreement even if the lady doesn't think it's necessary. (blank forms are available online). Verbal agreements are worth nothing and you really need to keep this businesslike for your own protection. Both of you need to clarify exactly what is expected of both of you.
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post #6 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 11:04 AM
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The old place sounds terrible. Dirty buckets and dogs yapping and untrimmed feet? I'd leave that place. It sounds like you really don't like it there and you'd probably be much happier at the new place as long as you have a nice flat dry area to ride since they lack an arena.

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post #7 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
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i already did the contract with he new place, but no money has exchanged hands yet so i have time to decide...and i was right one of the huge turn outs where the bo's horses were is an there is actually an arena..and out where i am at its all desert so yeah i ride year round without currently training my kids for endurance but an arena is nice just so i can get phoenixs friskies out
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post #8 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 12:23 PM
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The current BO has made it clear that they're all business and not a well-run one, at that. They have NO place guilt tripping you, regardless, but there are too many (gross) red flags for you to feel a twitch.

A horse in a stall for A YEAR, no hoof care?! Wtf is that? An owner would be asked to leave my place if they showed that kind of neglect.
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post #9 of 19 Old 01-28-2014, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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well im going back to the new place today and am going to take some pictures...keep in mind its not some huuuge boarding facility but to be honest i have never seen such a clean place out reason i was so darn excited over it lol
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Smaller and cleaner is better than bigger and dirtier IMO. Move to the new place. It sounds absolutely lovely and like a heck of a lot cheaper than the same thing in my area!

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