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        03-31-2014, 02:31 AM
      #11
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by EponaLynn    
    It was hard to see in the first "after" pic but in the second one she looks too skinny to me. I'd hate the thought of my horse out in a paddock, low on the pecking order with nothing to eat. It's not healthy and could cause other probelms besides weightloss.

    I'd speak to your BO, show her the pictures, and ask what can be done. To have her say she'll feed them later and then not do it is ridiculous - that is NOT a good place to board.
    Sorry about that. Pulled it off my phone, so it's tiny for whatever reason.

    That is also a valid point.
         
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        03-31-2014, 02:37 AM
      #12
    Foal
    Since the first picture was kind of hard to see, offering this one as well. This was all that was left of the round bale two days ago. I don't think there's been a new one out yet. I shooed the other horses off for a few minutes to let her have a chance, but she just got chased off a few bites in.
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        03-31-2014, 03:08 AM
      #13
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by BossHoss    
    Since the first picture was kind of hard to see, offering this one as well. This was all that was left of the round bale two days ago. I don't think there's been a new one out yet. I shooed the other horses off for a few minutes to let her have a chance, but she just got chased off a few bites in.
    THAT looks like an absolute H*LL hole. (Says she while wishing we had that rain.) I wouldn't find that to be an acceptable situation for one of my horses, period. Is stall board an option for you?
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        03-31-2014, 03:22 AM
      #14
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    THAT looks like an absolute H*LL hole. (Says she while wishing we had that rain.) I wouldn't find that to be an acceptable situation for one of my horses, period. Is stall board an option for you?
    The horses are being kept off the nicer, large pasture with the lake ATM, because the ground is wet and I suppose they'll rut it up and graze on the new grass coming in.

    (Please, take the rain. It's going to do that all week!!!) I worked out an agreement with her that I could bring my horse in (because I literally lost 3 pairs of boots in the mud. It was like walking through cookie dough. ) as long as I bought my own shavings and kept my stall mucked every other day.

    There aren't any square bales on property, ATM. (Trust me, I looked for something to stick her in the stall with.) So, if she was put in the stall, I'm not sure she'd even get that kind of forage. I may just have to suck it up and buy some kind of forage I can soak, even though I am paying for her to get actual hay.

    Stall board there costs $400. It's supposed to be a 2x/day feeding, but I can tell you right now that doesn't happen. It'd honestly just be a waste of money.

    I did get some ideas once people started mentioning soaking forage, so I may just ask if I can do some kind of self-care setup. I don't feel like I'm getting what I pay for, but this barn is still infinitely better than the one I came from (where I wasn't allowed to pet or give my horse treats, and I wasn't allowed to use the arena) I'd be willing to pay for extra food that I put together myself, than to give that money to the BO who probably won't follow through with the feeding program we agree on.
         
        03-31-2014, 03:31 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    Is it just me or does the brown horse behind yours look awefully thin too? I think I see spine and ribs.... I agree with everyone else. The BO NEEDS to put out more bales! My 4 go thru a bale every few days and I have to make sure that the lower one on the pecking order has a second option to go to when all the others are at the wagon. 17 horses I would think would devour a bale in less than 24 hours. And since they are always eating, your mare really is most likely not getting anything to eat. Also, that is a totally not the best way to keep a bale out there in those conditions. A bale gets torn apart and will get stomped on, and in that mud the hay that could be filling bellies is being churned into the muck....

    Seriously consider moving your mare. Be it into stall board and up her feed or to some place new that has better feeding management. No excuse for your or any of the other boarders horses to be in those conditions, mud in spring is one thing, most of us deal with that but that is wayyy too many horses in that pen and no horses should lose weight from being starved.
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        03-31-2014, 03:42 AM
      #16
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by LadyChevalier    
    Is it just me or does the brown horse behind yours look awefully thin too? I think I see spine and ribs.... I agree with everyone else. The BO NEEDS to put out more bales! My 4 go thru a bale every few days and I have to make sure that the lower one on the pecking order has a second option to go to when all the others are at the wagon. 17 horses I would think would devour a bale in less than 24 hours. And since they are always eating, your mare really is most likely not getting anything to eat. Also, that is a totally not the best way to keep a bale out there in those conditions. A bale gets torn apart and will get stomped on, and in that mud the hay that could be filling bellies is being churned into the muck....

    Seriously consider moving your mare. Be it into stall board and up her feed or to some place new that has better feeding management. No excuse for your or any of the other boarders horses to be in those conditions, mud in spring is one thing, most of us deal with that but that is wayyy too many horses in that pen and no horses should lose weight from being starved.
    To be fair, the horse behind mine is almost 30 and has been out of work for years. She's fed soaked forage and grain 2x daily and still looks like that. Poor girl.

    I don't have a better option for a barn at this time. The barn I moved her from was more expensive, and treated me like crap (as well as charging me for food my horse never got.) (Seems to be a common occurrence???)
    If a nicer barn opens up, I may very well consider it.

    I'm tempted to see if the BO will let me just take over feeding and charge me substantially less/no board. She obviously has a lot going on and while I respect that, her boarders are suffering because of it. I am going to see what I can do about just buying a 40 lb bag of cubes (not pellets, since she needs the roughage) and feeding her myself 2x day. If I'm buying the feed, and feeding it myself, I don't see why my costs would change.

    We shall see. X(
         
        03-31-2014, 09:02 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    If there is no square bales on the property and you want to bring your mare in a stall to give her a few hours of eating time and reprieve from being bossed around, try Triple Crown Safe Starch Forage. It is forage (timothy, alfalfa, grass) that comes in 50 bags and gives a horse the 'chewing time' they so love.
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        03-31-2014, 12:35 PM
      #18
    Foal
    I offered to buy alfalfa cubes, and feed her 2x a day, and even take over her feeding so the barn owner wouldn't have to worry about it. All I got was " I don't do self care. We will need to discuss it. "

    I am having some serious trust issues where I'm not sure that I can trust her to feed the extra feed I buy for my horse, and like hell I'm going to pay extra for her to -maybe- feed my horse extra feed.

    Like I said.. I really like her. But this is putting a bad taste in my mouth. I'm between another crappy barn, and people I don't like, and sometimes my horse won't get fed like I pay for.. and this- which may or may not improve over the next 2 months, when the grass comes in.
         
        03-31-2014, 01:32 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    If that 3rd picture is your horse today, he looks as bad as a rescue. That 3rd picture is just awful. It looks like starvation. I don't think you pay board to starve your horse. First thing I would do is worm your horse, then worm again a month later.

    It doesn't matter how much you like the BO, or the people at the barn. Are they having the same problem? Your horse comes first, no exception. I would not be adding to his food because you will be enabling the BO not feed the appropriate amount.
         
        03-31-2014, 02:12 PM
      #20
    Teen Forum Moderator
    Absolutely ridiculous. Its YOUR horse, you can feed her whatever the heck you want on TOP of what she is or isn't being fed by the BO and she shouldn't be able to say a darned thing about it. After work every day, go out, give her 3-4 lbs of soaked cubes or pellets (both are forage actually), and maybe some beet pulp. Pay your usual board but buy these too and let her eat that then put her up. If she's staying in a stall at night with you paying for shavings, which sounds like a good idea to me, buy your own bales of hay and store them in your garage. Fill a net with 3 flakes or so, bring it with you, and hang it up for her to eat.

    Your horse looks awful to me. Sunken, thin, and sickly. I wonder if she's even getting the water she needs. If you can't move you have to do anything in your power to give her the food she needs...or find someone else who can.

    Again, the BO CAN NOT keep you from feeding your horse food in addition to what she has if YOU are the one feeding it.
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