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    09-12-2012, 02:41 PM
There's a very simple way to reassure yourself if your BO is gouging you or exploiting the hay shortage.

Call around to other boarding barns and hay dealers. Ask the BMs what they paid for hay last year, what they are having to pay this year and if they are having to use other, out of area sources to get hay at all. Factor in the extra delivery cost if the latter is true. Then call hay growers and dealers in your area and ask the same questions.

Even if you board went up more than the price increased, consider that your barn's other overhead prices may have been creeping up (Diesel is up over $4./gallon, and grain prices are high as well.) and your BO may have decided to do one increase all at once, rather than several.

Golden Horse made a good point, this is a legitmate question from someone without a lot of experience. The cure for that is to do some research and get some experience. It might also be instructive to call around to some other boarding barns and find out what they charge for similiar facilities and services.

Boarding barns are often little hotbeds of gossip and grievances, and a couple of complainers can get everyone all stirred up at a perceived unfairness. Find out if it's reasonable or out of line by doing some research of your own.
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    09-12-2012, 02:43 PM
Green Broke
I hope when you find this endless supply of affordable, quality hay you share it with all those silly ranchers who are out selling their herds off at market because they foolishly believe in the apparently non-existent shortage of hay.
    09-12-2012, 02:44 PM
Green Broke
Why don't you tell us how much you pay for pasture board?

I have volunteered to buy my own round bales for winter so my horse can eat as much as she needs. I am fully prepared to pay outrageous prices. I also do not expect a break in board prices because I'm buying my own hay. I have ran the numbers and honestly have no idea how it's done after you add in maintainence of the property, tractors, electric bill, water bill, pasture maintainence, shavings, and paying the bm.
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    09-12-2012, 02:48 PM
If you are unhappy at your barn, then yes, you should find a new barn that you will be happy at.

I think most of the responses here are just trying to point out that the drought is real. Most of us are feeling the pinch...whether we are boarders or owners. Your OP came across (IMO) as very dismissive of a real crisis that almost everyone on this forum is dealing with. It may not have been your intent, but in all honesty, that's how I read it.

I'm curious now...how much is she trying to increase your board? My fees went up $20 per month because both feed and hay prices went up. Our BO sen out a notice with details on the increased feed and hay costs, so we were able to see the differences ourselves. Perhaps you can ask your BO for a similar breakdown.
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    09-12-2012, 02:58 PM
Gas is heading to $4.00/gal, my feed prices just increased by $2.00 a BAG, and I expect my hay prices to go up as well.

So far, my hay provider hasn't increased the price per bale, but she'll have to if she wants to make even a small profit. Oh, and she only has half the amount of hay she had last year because of the 'nonexistent' drought.

I like Maura's idea; if you don't believe that prices are on the increase, do some independent research. You'll soon find out that your BO is probably right in line with every other board provider out there, price wise.
    09-12-2012, 03:09 PM
Green Broke
Its a VERY real drought...not dramatized at all IMO.

My papa just had to sell off 150 head (a full 1/3 of his herd) because they werent able to get a SINGLE cut from their hay field this year.

We got lucky back home. We got 4 cuts on our field averaging about 350 bales...and 4 cuts on our small field with about 200 average, so we were able to take some to my papa to feed his cows...if we didnt have such good cuts he probably would have ended up selling 80% of his herd.
    09-12-2012, 03:12 PM
Luckily we've seen no increase yet but the barn is full full full because we are one of the few barns in the area with an awesome supplier who has secured all our "normal" hay at "normal" prices.
Still I know people paying in excess of $450/mo for pasture board at other places. Ours is still $350-400 depending on options.

Running through the numbers in a healthy year at any boarding stable, they break even on boarding and their income is in clinics, shows, lessons and horse sales. Bad hay years get hairy pretty quick. So that's why I run events at my boarding stable - I figure its like a bonus for the both of us haha and none of the boarders have to trailer.
You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Maybe put some effort into your boarding stable and they won't be so happy to get rid of you.
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    09-12-2012, 03:14 PM
The fuel costs...All it takes is for a camel to fart in the middle east and the fuel prices go up, so I think it starts there. The price of hay has dropped here ,I was paying 100 bucks for 4x6 and they were baled so loose, same with the squares. I think they made quite a bit of profit off of me.

Your lucky if you have a BO with ethics ,you best stick with them.
    09-12-2012, 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by luvmyBlackBeauty    
Fortunately I have ppl inviting me to barns all the time bc I am the ideal boarder...
Things will work out
They always do
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I'm sure they will, and I'm glad that you are the ideal boarder, good luck in your new barn.
    09-12-2012, 03:32 PM
Green Broke
Hi. Anyone else think the "hay shortage" caused by the drought this summer is being exploited and overdramatized by outrageous board increases, greedy BO's, etc?

We have had nothing but rain here the past few weeks and I am sure there are bumper crops everywhere...!

I'm done in here, not going to get beat up again for my own experience. The reality and truth is , like it or not, my BO IS exploiting this situation and I am seriously thinking of leaving.. For other reasons too which I won't get into in here .. This is just the final straw. Based on some of these rude responses ( I was not rude at all ) perhaps some posters might be identifying or personalizing with my own BO. Oh well... I know there are good honest BOs out there, just not this one
Fortunately I have ppl inviting me to barns all the time bc I am the ideal boarder...
Things will work out
They always do

I don't think anybody is beating you up? You asked us if we thought people were exploiting the drought and "dramatizing" it. And we gave our reasons for yay or nay.

You didnt say "my BO is doing ABC and I think theyre exploiting me for XYZ reasons" you asked what we thought about the drought....how is anything we say contrary to the question you asked?

I hope things work out for you.

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