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post #11 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 08:37 AM
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If the stables are truly that bad, I would go horseless before subjecting an animal and myself to that place.
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post #12 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 08:38 AM
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You can want something done all day long. It comes down to you willing to keep a horse in these conditions because you want one, not thinking about what this horse is going to go through. What happens when the day after you pay for it, the foal stabs itself on the boards and nails you ate talking about? Why would you want to put yourself in that situation. Your 17 years old, you have your entire horse life ahead of you. Forget what you want for a little while until you can find a better conditon for your next horse.
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post #13 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 08:41 AM
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Then you get the LOCAL media involved, not a known terrorist organization whose sole goal is the demise of all domestic animals. I sincerely doubt you got that quick a response from PETA, and even if you did, they have no authority to do anything except act like idiots, call people names, and picket. Plus, if the stables are private property, they can't trespass.

Besides, even if your little scheme works and the horse owners should get kicked out it'll take months to YEARS to evict them all, as well as bringing criminal charges against them. Things like this aren't considered priority in the courts, and the only ones who will benefit will be the lawyers. So if you're expecting some kind of miracle to occur within the next 2 to 3 months, you're dreaming. The litigation could drag on for years while the property remains empty. Not to mention, all the animals seized will go to rescues and you won't have a chance to buy that foal you want so badly.

You're 17 years old and have no clue how things work in the real world.

You want the truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!

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I don't think you guys are seeing my point in this. The foal is already in these stables. He is owned by by someone who doesn't know what he is doing, he doesn't have a shelter, and no one spend any time with him. I would put him in my old horse's stall, which has a shelter (not that a shelter is a nessasity, but it's definitely more comfortable that not having one), and i would give more than enough of my time. The camera I have would help avoid the issues i ran into with my last horse, because i can take "solid evidence" to the police if anything happens (originally, they told me that they believe me, but can't do anything until i have more than cut locks and stolen stuff).

So I'd be giving the weanling a better life. May not be much better, but in a year, he will leave this town as i do, which is good. I'm not stupid, I've thought this through. I am not selfish enough to endanger a foal because I want a new horse, I am genuinely trying to improve his life.
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post #15 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 10:13 AM
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Also, the foal already lives at these stables. And don't act like I'm stuck up about these people owning horses. If you saw what was happening, you would want something done too.
Is it the foal with the grown in halter?

We dont think you're stuck up about anything. The horses are in horrid conditions, people shouldnt be keeping them that way. We agree with you.
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post #16 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 10:30 AM
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No ones doubting you can offer better care. It's the fact of the foal will still be in the same stable conditions, even if its onlyy for a year.
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post #17 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 01:26 PM
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post #18 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 01:27 PM
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where you do plan on moving to? can you find a place to board there and move the foal now? i'm really REALLY surprised that there aren't more places to board than that one. perhaps you should look on craigslist or whatever local sites you have for something else. you'd be better off finding a neighbor that will let you board the foal in their back yard (assuming you put up safe fencing, shelter, etc.) than staying at this place.

on that note, i've seen this type of situation all over nevada. that's pretty standard (unfortunately), but i do know that there are other options that are not 200 miles away. there are places in elko and spring creek, granted that's 100 miles but this is nevada we're talking about. there are other options.
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post #19 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 01:47 PM
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Yes there has to be other boarding options. Perhaps they are more expensive. But this cannot be it for any region.
I live in Africa, and this would not be it for me.
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post #20 of 23 Old 11-20-2012, 02:27 PM
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Well, I'm going to have to repeat what others have said, you're 17. It is so hard to convey what that means because we know it's frustrating to hear that we know where your mind is at, but it's all we can say because we've truly lived through it already.

You have made the goal of moving away when you turn 18. Goals are good, and they sometimes happen, but until you are literally moved out, it's not set in stone. Just like there is no guarantee at your age that you'll be able to afford a horse in a year, or that you'll still be with your boyfriend, or that you'll even be the same person you are now. The next few years will change more than you realize, that's the reality of it.

With that schpeel out of the way, I agree that place is horrid. I am shocked that you chose to subject a horse to those conditions previously, and am surprised you'd even consider keeping another there. It doesn't MATTER that the foal is already there - if you take ownership, he is there because you chose to keep him there, with this thin promise of "one day, I'll move him".

If you cannot move him the second the bill of sale is in your hand, you are not offering him anything better. You point out all these people whose methods you don't approve of, but let me be clear - NOBODY who voluntarily keeps a horse in a place like that has a CLUE what they are doing. Period. Not the few boarders you "approve of", not you as long as you are even considering it, NOBODY. If this trainer you've picked out for this foal is AT ALL affiliated with this place, they are not a trainer you should be hiring. If they really have nothing to do with the place, then you should be spending your time at THEIR facility, not this one.

As for PETA, don't let them fool you about the "power" they have. They are not the animal police, they have no more authority here than you. If there are rules that should be followed, you need to be talking to who made the rules - if it's public property enforced by local bylaws, that's where you need to go. If it's privately owned, you need to talk to the owners. If that fails, then talk to LOCAL animal control, LOCAL media, if you really want to make a difference to these horses. That barn has a lot more problems than a few bad people, it needs to be shut down and torn down, and it's going to take a lot more than a 17 year old with a goal to rebuild.

I don't doubt that your heart is in the right place, and I don't judge you for sticking around there if it's the only barn nearby - I tolerated a lot of dumps just to be around horses. However if you really want to make a difference, work with the right people to get that barn closed down and the older horses especially to a home with good care or a peaceful end. If -as is too often the case- nothing can be done and the people with authority won't budge, you need to walk away. Move away like you plan and find an infinitely better place to work with horses, whether it is to learn what conditions are actually acceptable or whether it is to help horses that you can actually help. If these things don't matter to you then it is JUST about having a foal right now, and you need to walk away. There will be others, even ones you feel that connection with.

Don't even think about keeping a horse with your name as owner in that place for any length of time.
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