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    12-06-2011, 07:17 PM
  #11
Trained
She requires tetanus/coggins. But I will also be giving rabies/WNV. Here's what my current barn requires (and I've checked with vets in my area and most of these are separate vaccines...unlike a lot of people have 1 vaccine cover a lot of these, so I'd be paying for each separate vaccine...it's ridiculous)

Mandatory Fall vaccinations (deadline September 30th)
-Intranasal Flu
-EHV
-Annual Dental exam/float

Mandatory Spring vaccinations (deadline April 30th)
-Intranasal strangles (given two weeks after other vaccines) <---meaning an extra farm call
-Rabies
-West Nile
-Intranasal flu
-EWT
-EHV
-Coggins Test
-Fecal egg count

Ok so I may have exaggerated a bit on how much but I will feel much better knowing that I can choose what I want my horse vaccinated against.[/QUOTE]

Ok, well Coggins she can't get away from, it's a state thing. I would recommend you get the Fluvac because it covers, Flu, Rhino and the Sleeping sickness viruses and has tetanus in it, costs about $18 if you buy it and give it yourself. West Nile I give separately, and it's expensive, $27, and Rabies is cheap and one I wouldn't ever do without. I can buy a 10 dose vial of Rabies for about $12, so even if you give individual it's probably less than $10. Lots cheaper than vet visits. I don't get into all the EHV, & Intranasal stuff because it's all more expensive than the combo shot. I do intranasal strangles for my horses but I don't require it for the boarders.
     
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    12-06-2011, 08:50 PM
  #12
Green Broke
When my horse isnt at home I board at a place where all the horses are kept seperate. The big field is subdivided into smaller 2 to 3 acres fields, With small runins. Horses from different owners don't intermingle. My hay goes to my horse along with lots of other advantages.
I know I am in the minority on this forum and even though post after post after post describe problems specifically caused by mixed owner horses in same area, everyone constantly makes excuses why doing otherwise is sooooooooooooo impossible and sooooooooooooooooo hard, and just wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much to ask. They are just that, excuses. It is easy, it's cheap, it eliminates so many hassles and I wouldnt have it any other way.
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    12-07-2011, 09:32 AM
  #13
Weanling
I just moved my horse a couple weeks ago. If you have a contract read it. Give them the right amount of notice and move your horse ASAP. If it's a better place your horse deserves it. As for moving as soon as possible because they might take it out on your horse.. well take that advice. The old barn said my horse wasn't eating and that is why he lost so much weight.. but they were actually starving him. Don't let it happen to you!
     
    12-07-2011, 10:09 AM
  #14
Banned
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Originally Posted by Blondehorselover    

Mandatory Fall vaccinations (deadline September 30th)
-Intranasal Flu
-EHV
-Annual Dental exam/float

Mandatory Spring vaccinations (deadline April 30th)
-Intranasal strangles (given two weeks after other vaccines) <---meaning an extra farm call
-Rabies
-West Nile
-Intranasal flu
-EWT
-EHV
-Coggins Test
-Fecal egg count
Those are not all vaccines, you realize that, right?

Nothing they require seems out of line to me.
I am not sure why it is more appealing to be at a barn that does not require the horse your horse is next to be protected against things that they can pass along to your horse.

Fecal egg count is a way to determine your horse's worm load to help figure out the best deworming schedule for that horse. Not a vaccine.

Coggins is a test for EIA. It is a blood draw, not a vaccine.


Giving vaccines separate (vs. mixed in one shot) actually has advantages. (Not saying you have to do it that way, saying it is not something bad.)


Month to month still requires 30 days notice. Even if you do not have a written boarding contract, 30 days notice is the industry standard and the polite thing to do. You are a new horse owner, the horse would is smaller than you think, you do not want to be known as 'one of those people' who does not give notice.
     
    12-07-2011, 10:47 AM
  #15
Banned
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
When my horse isnt at home I board at a place where all the horses are kept seperate. The big field is subdivided into smaller 2 to 3 acres fields, With small runins. Horses from different owners don't intermingle.
I prefer it this way also.

I do not like my horses in with other peoples horses. It is such a hassle in so many ways!!! When we had just Epona, before we bought Beau, she was in a mixed herd.... The BO threw a specific amount of hay, and the top horses ate almost all of it...so Epona was left to eat whatever was left over, if any....even though I paid the same as the other boarders for board, my horse was getting way less hay.

And when we went to get her, we put our lives in danger. The boss horse would charge her and bite her, causing her to spook and nearly crush my son against a run in. The boss horse had no respect for us, and we didn't want the hassle nor were we allowed to take the time to teach him to. He didn't respect his owner either for that matter. He would constantly charge at Epona when we tried to take her out of the pasture not because he was protecting her....but because he connected "out" with grain time...and he wanted out to get his grain....and woe to anyone who stood in his way. He charged at us, and when we sent him off, he charge by us when we opened the gate. It was a royal PITA to go out to the field to get our horse. And we were without recourse as we were not allowed to take crops or otherwise smack or hit another boarder's horse...ESPECIALLY not the boss horse....his owner was ....adament that no one touch her horse. And she was the BO's favorite.

When we got Beau, they were given a paddock to themselves, thank God. And even though he is a psycho alpha, since we OWNED him, we were able to teach him to respect us and NOT to charge us or the gate or Epona. We were also allowed to buy extra hay from the BO to make sure Epona had enough to eat, since Beau had first pickings on the hay piles.

So, when we were barn shopping last year, that was one of our requirements. Private turnout. No exceptions. We were more than willing to pay extra for it just to not to have to deal with other people's badly behaved horses. Unfortunately, most facilities didn't have the space to offer private turnout.

So, we were extremely blessed to find that an acquaintence of ours owned a 23 acre private residence farm with six horse stalls ...that was not being used. So we moved our horses there. Now they have the ULTIMATE in private turnout since they are the only horses on the prooperty.

As Joe said, private turnout for me...I wouldn't have it any other way.

Dealing with the bite wounds, kick wounds, low horse not getting enough hay, being charged at by the alpha, alpha horse charging out the gate, etc.....who needs that kind of crap!!!

On the other side, though. When Beau was in a herd for the few months after we bought him until we could move him to Epona's barn, we had NONE of those hassles!!! HE was the alpha, and no horse would dare approach him when we came into the field to get him. They kept their distance from him ....at all times.
It was such a relief to actually be able to walk up to your horse, halter him and lead him out without being charged at, charged by or him being bitten!!!

Starkie is right...be careful of spiteful BOs. We had to actually SNEAK Beau out of his barn...but legally. We came to the farm one day, informed the BO we were moving him, paid him for the final 30 days of board as we were required to give 30 days notice, and when he asked, so when will you be moving him, I replied "in about 15 minutes".

The contract required 30 days notice of termination of the contract which was paying for a stall, feed, etc. No requirement that the horse had to be there to receive those things...just my obligation to PAY for those things.

We did this as we were concerned for Beau's safety.
     
    12-07-2011, 11:04 AM
  #16
Banned
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Originally Posted by Blondehorselover    
She requires tetanus/coggins. But I will also be giving rabies/WNV. Here's what my current barn requires (and I've checked with vets in my area and most of these are separate vaccines...unlike a lot of people have 1 vaccine cover a lot of these, so I'd be paying for each separate vaccine...it's ridiculous)

Mandatory Fall vaccinations (deadline September 30th)
-Intranasal Flu
-EHV
-Annual Dental exam/float

Mandatory Spring vaccinations (deadline April 30th)
-Intranasal strangles (given two weeks after other vaccines) <---meaning an extra farm call
-Rabies
-West Nile
-Intranasal flu
-EWT
-EHV
-Coggins Test
-Fecal egg count

Ok so I may have exaggerated a bit on how much but I will feel much better knowing that I can choose what I want my horse vaccinated against.
I don't see a problem with these vaccines. You may come to regret the"each owner chooses what they want their horse vaccinated against" stance.

Horse facilities are breeding grounds for horse diseases...and you will never know for sure what the horses your horse lives with are vaccinated against or what they may have picked up in the off site travels. SCARY.

It cheaper to pay for the vaccines than to pay the vet later when my horse came down with strangles or the flu....or worse.

The same for worming....if the barn owner doesn't have a worming regimen or FEC testing done, you could be spending money on wormer for no reason as it may not be working, or if the other horses aren't wormed, they could be reinfecting your horses as soon as the wormer leaves your horses bodies.

SOME things need to be done on a GROUP basis in a boarding facility, IMO.....vaccination and worming schedules are paramount!!!!

In these cases, EVERY horse in the facility needs to be on the same page!!!
     
    12-07-2011, 11:22 AM
  #17
Green Broke
As far as vaccines, I never paid much attention. I have a pretty good deal with my vet. He doesnt work on tugboats, I don't give him medical advice. I give my vet a very good description of my horse, where I take him, what he will be exposed to and trust his judgement, When you add in the 1000's for tack, fuel, horse trailers, hay, feed, shoes, barn, fencing, etc etc, I don't think a $20 vaccine is going to break the bank.
     
    12-07-2011, 11:51 AM
  #18
Weanling
Beau – I dealt with a couple horses like that at my old barn too. Another person owned two Haflingers and a Friesian. The Haffies were stubborn and had the tendency to bully my young gelding, but would generally steer clear with a warning look from me. The Friesian, on the other hand… she was a bit of a witch and did not respect subtle warnings to stay out of my space. The first day she snaked her neck at me was the day she earned a good smack on the shoulder. The day she nearly ran me over in her haste to bite and chase my horse away was the day I introduced her to the crop I’d started carrying in that field. One good smack and she never came near me again.

I don’t care whose horse it is – if it charges me and tries to run over me to get at my horse, it’s getting a good smack. If the tables were turned, I would fully expect someone to smack my horse for being pushy, rude or dangerous. There is no excuse for that behavior and I refuse to be injured because an owner can’t discipline their 1000-pound animal.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:05 PM
  #19
mls
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe4d    
When my horse isnt at home I board at a place where all the horses are kept seperate. The big field is subdivided into smaller 2 to 3 acres fields, With small runins. Horses from different owners don't intermingle. My hay goes to my horse along with lots of other advantages.
I know I am in the minority on this forum and even though post after post after post describe problems specifically caused by mixed owner horses in same area, everyone constantly makes excuses why doing otherwise is sooooooooooooo impossible and sooooooooooooooooo hard, and just wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much to ask. They are just that, excuses. It is easy, it's cheap, it eliminates so many hassles and I wouldnt have it any other way.
Cheap? Do you have any idea what individual turnout is in most places?

We have the ocassional scuffle in the turnout but 99% of the time, the horses get along just fine. Horses are herd animals and meant to have buddies.
     
    12-07-2011, 12:32 PM
  #20
Banned
MLS, you noticed that Joe boards, right? People who board are well known for thinking their preferred way of doing things is cheap and no big deal for the barn owner to do.
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