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        01-26-2014, 11:50 PM
      #111
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    The difference between most of us at that age and this generation is how we were raised. I'm only 21 but I was raised to be polite, and if someone said don't touch something, id leave it alone. Say the same things to a 14 year old now and they won't listen. This girl is an example of that (and the girl who used to to own the mare she ran into the ground, and BO's nice, and a few others I know). She should be supervised for now on at ANY barn, since she has proven herself incapable of being able to behave un attended.
         
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        01-26-2014, 11:53 PM
      #112
    Weanling
    I've met (and been in confrontations) with parents like that. Your BO needs to kick them out right now. Fact is, those kinds of people will never blame their precious child for anything that goes wrong. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault because their child would NEVER do what you claim. (Even when confronted with 3 other witnesses who also saw the child commit the act).

    BTDT with too many of these folks. The worst one:

    9 year old girl holding a 6 year old under water because she wanted the toy the 6 year old had. I yelled at the 9 year old while pulling the 6 year old to safety. 9 year olds Mom (who had been on the other side of the pool texting and ignoring her kid) yells at ME and tells me that I should have talked to her FIRST and that I should not speak to her child at all. When I pointed out her child's attempted murder of another kid, she denied that it ever happened saying I must have misunderstood. It didn't matter that 3 other adults all agreed with my story, we were just a bunch of bullies picking on her poor misunderstood baby.

    Run, run far and run fast. Parents like this are nothing but trouble and their kids are even worse because they KNOW mummy and daddykins will always take their side.
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        01-27-2014, 12:23 AM
      #113
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Rideordie112    
    Update!
    I got a response from the girls parents. (I sent it this morning, it's now around 7:35 PM)
    Her parents said that they were under the impression that I had given her permission to ride my horse whenever she pleased. And they also said that even if I didn't want their daughter to ride my horse I wasn't clear about it (they're dumb. This whole situation is dumb. They're guarding their baby). They also said that they didn't appreciate me confronting their daughter when I caught her this morning. They said I had no place to "yell at her" as that is their job.
    They said they were also insulted that suddenly I had been strict about who handles my horse (mostly referring to petting him without my permission since this whole thing started) and that it puts off a "negative" vibe in the entire place.
    And they said they would be talking to the BO about their side of the story.
    Yeah, good luck to them. I'm 99.9% sure the BO is on my side.
    And if she's not, well then after this email, I'm done. And gone.
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    You are right. They are protecting their baby and they are not reasonable people.

    My daughter is 11, but I think that even when she's 14, if she tells me that someone allowed her to ride their horse, I'm going to talk to that person. And it is not because I don't trust my daughter, but I'd want to meet that person. Such things as riding someone else's horse have to be agreed upon between adults.

    So they are either lying, or are dumb, as you said. In any case, they are bad, bad news.

    Sorry about your barn troubles. I hope the BO see through them and kicks them out.
         
        01-27-2014, 12:35 AM
      #114
    Weanling
    Quite frankly I would be gone too if the barn owner didnt side with you. What is going to stop this girl from riding other boarder's horses out in the back pasture too? (even now or once you are gone?) This girl is a liability and she and her parents need to learn that making assumptions is dangerous- she could have easily fallen from your horse or somebody else's and been hurt or killed out in that back pasture and no one would know it until someone went back there and that could be too late. Not to mention your horse could have been hurt and I doubt she would feel the least bit guilty since she would have to admit she was to blame. Your barn owner NEEDS to make that clear that under no circumstances is anyone to ride anyone elses horses without express written permission with a signed waiver and the BO must have copies filed away to protect herself and the boarders.

    I am sorry you have to go through this, I am ever more thankful I have property to keep my own horses on and not have to worry about strangers taking my horses on joy rides unless someone stole them.... and I hope to high heaven that never happens.

    Just know that you are doing the right thing, you were not out of bounds. You subtly warned this girl to stop messing with your horse when you told her you thought someone was riding your horse and that it was bothering you, and you posted signs on his stall saying no one BUT you, the bo, farrier etc could TOUCH your horse. If that isnt a clear sign to her then a course of action must be taken. At the very most I do agree with you filing a police report- she is "borrowing" your horse and tack without permission aka STEALING (even if she puts it back where it was- but its like some one stealing someones car out of their yard and then putting it back where they found it... its still stealing). She is TRESPASSING into your horses stall when its clearly marked not to.

    If I were the BO and this was happening I would ask them to leave, like now. Id rather keep honest business and keep my current clients whom I have known for a long time and never had a problem with before than keep newbies that have caused nothing but grief, and chance losing more of my good honest clients.
         
        01-27-2014, 12:55 AM
      #115
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    Hah, I'd send them a nice email back stating that everyone in the barn was asked nicely to leave your horse alone before you "yelled" at her. AND that your horse is YOUR private property (or your parents mr and mrs John Doe, whoever) so you should not ever have to make it clear to someone to leave your horse alone. Back it up by saying that if they are not convinced, then you will point them in the direction of the nearest police station and have them explain it to them ;)

    I would also have printed editions of all of these correspondences for the barn owner and your own records. My guess is that these guys will be booted out, but if not then you will be wise to move your horse to the backup barn immediately.
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        01-27-2014, 01:17 AM
      #116
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by DuckDodgers    
    Hah, I'd send them a nice email back stating that everyone in the barn was asked nicely to leave your horse alone before you "yelled" at her. AND that your horse is YOUR private property (or your parents mr and mrs John Doe, whoever) so you should not ever have to make it clear to someone to leave your horse alone. Back it up by saying that if they are not convinced, then you will point them in the direction of the nearest police station and have them explain it to them ;)

    I would also have printed editions of all of these correspondences for the barn owner and your own records. My guess is that these guys will be booted out, but if not then you will be wise to move your horse to the backup barn immediately.
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    Haha I like your police station idea! And I think my parents will be getting a police report. I haven't yet responded to the email because honestly, I don't want to make them any more angry. And I have no way of changing their thinking so I'll let the BO handle it
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        01-27-2014, 01:32 AM
      #117
    Yearling
    Wow, Rideordie, I am so sorry this is happening to you and your sweet horse.

    As others have already said, a family like this is toxic. I have dealt with families like this that, even with video evidence, still denied what their child had done. In one case, where a teenager forged the parents' signature, the mom told me it was none of my business (as a school official), and I had no right to impose consequences. For some parents, it is more important for their child to like them than to be good people and raise a good citizen. Get as far away from them as possible, even if it means moving to a new barn, because it will not end there.

    I think, however, it is most likely that the BO will ask them to leave, as other boarders know what is going on and will be very upset if this is not handled correctly.

    I also want to compliment you on how well you have handled this situation. You are quite an impressive young lady, able to take in lots of different advice, keep you head level, and protect yourself and your horse. Your family must be very proud of you!
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        01-27-2014, 01:35 AM
      #118
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Foxtail Ranch    

    I also want to compliment you on how well you have handled this situation. You are quite an impressive young lady, able to take in lots of different advice, keep you head level, and protect yourself and your horse. Your family must be very proud of you!
    Thank you so much! That has made my night :)
    I am just glad this whole thing is out in the open before her or my horse got hurt
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        01-27-2014, 01:40 AM
      #119
    Weanling
    Hmmmm.

    In my family, not that any of the kids would do such a thing. But your ass would be out on the clothes line. I don't think any of us would survive doing something like that. Those types of parents are the ones who have kids with no jobs, perhaps some kind of addiction or just low lifes and they wonder where they went wrong.

    I hope they get kicked out of your barn.
         
        01-27-2014, 01:43 AM
      #120
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    Originally Posted by Rideordie112    
    Haha I like your police station idea! And I think my parents will be getting a police report. I haven't yet responded to the email because honestly, I don't want to make them any more angry. And I have no way of changing their thinking so I'll let the BO handle it
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    In all actuality (after giving yourself a moment to calm and collect your thoughts), I would issue them a prompt response to them so that they know you're hot on top of this issue. It would go something to the effect of this:

    "Mr. And Mrs. Jones,
    I have never, for any reason, given your daughter Susie Jones permission to ride my horse, Stitch. He is the legal property of myself, Jane Smith (or your parents' names), for only myself and those with written permission to ride or handle. Being my property I should be under no obligation to make this clear to anybody, nor should any other boarder.

    As the unauthorized use of another boarder's horse, tack, and equipment is a safety and liability issue for the entire barn, I will be allowing the barn owner Lucy James to handle the issue from here. I first wanted to inform you of the issues surrounding your daughter's use of my property beforehand."

    You've already stated that you will be moving if the barn owner doesn't manage this quickly, so it's in her hands. Send them a response stating as such, and you'll find your answer soon. You won't be ignoring the issue, but you're making it clear that it's a problem for the entire barn.
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