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post #1 of 25 Old 05-23-2012, 09:59 PM Thread Starter
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A Messy Free Boarding Issue - Really Need Advice

Okay, I am starting to get really frustrated with this whole situation. About two years ago, I got my own horse, Rusty. We set up outdoor fencing for him and had a round pen in a shed for when it wasn't nice outside. A family friend, "Joe", wanted to get a horse for his daughter, "Kiki", and he told me he knew a lot about horses and could help me with Rusty, since Rusty and I were having issues. I was at the end of the rope with my horse, so I said yes to his help. He bought Bonnie, a three year old Belgian, for Kiki.

Bonnie ate up our pasture. Joe always said he was going to help my dad fence in the rest of it. He never did.

Joe, at first, was helpful in helping me figure out Rusty. He could sometimes get him on the trailer, and he did take me and a couple of friends down to a trail ride two nights. Also, he has helped find some western tack and did buy some of it for me and Rusty. This was back a few years ago. I no longer need any of this tack because Rusty and I switched to English.

After seeing Bonnie misbehave (I don't know why he bought this stupid horse), he bought another horse, Snowy. Snowy was 4 years old and had 30 days training. She was a supposed pocket horse. So now there's three horses, including Rusty, in my pasture.

After Snowy threw Joe off and proved her lack of training, Joe bought an 18 year old Quarter Horse that was acutally a good fit for Kiki, who was now taking lessons. Because he was broke, he asked my mom for a loan for the horse.

In exchange for Snowy's foal (she had a chance of being pregnant), he got a 7 year old Paint mare with navicular. She was rideable, but was gimpy and way too excitable.

At one point, we had 5 horses in a pasture meant for one or two horses. Joe finally sold Bonnie.

Over the winter, Joe always said he was going to buy hay. He never did. We used hay for his horses and my horse from our own field. He started to never come out and see his horses.

Last spring, the 18 year old QH he had was put down because of a leg injury. The other horses, the Paint, Snowy, and my horse Rusty are currently still here.

I did show Dolly (Paint) and Snowy in the county fair with Joe's permission, along with my Rusty. I have put friends on them a few times. Joe pulled his daughter out of lessons because he got mad over the instructor only having certain lessons times. Kiki cannot ride any of these horses except maybe Rusty. Without my permission, Joe has used Rusty many times for his daughter and for him up to this day. I do not like the way Joe rides or how he handles Rusty, and his daughter is too inexperienced. Rusty and I have come great strides in jumping, and he is under training. I don't want him to get confused with Joe's riding. Joe would also use Rusty's tack and my other equipment that I BOUGHT and wouldn't put it back, or it would magically disappear. We bought a new horse trailer this past summer, and my dad let Joe use it and let him take Rusty to a horse show for his daughter while I was at a show 2 hours away riding a lesson horse.

Joe has said he is going to help out with a whole bunch of stuff but never has. His horses are still eating our hay, but my parents refuse to do anything about it. I have tried talking with them, but they say he's their friend. Oh, and he never paid back that loan for the 18 year old QH to my mom. And she's not pressing the issue.

Recently, we got another horse for my niece to ride, so I now have Knight and Rusty. Knight is at the bottom of the pecking order, and Joe's horses steal his hay and feed (they are not grained). I don't have the equipment to make another pen with a run-in shed, and Knight eats too slowly for me to wait for him to eat everything out there and protect him. I don't know how to put up fencing anyway, and my dad is always too busy. I want Knight and Rusty to bond, but these other horses get in the way!

I don't know what to do! I can't stop feeding these other horses, but it's not like I want them to push around Knight! They have caused me more trouble than good, and I am tired of Joe showing up and trying out Rusty! He even thinks Rusty responds to him better than me! I AM SO FED UP!


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post #2 of 25 Old 05-23-2012, 10:01 PM
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It's your property right? Tell your parents to kick him and his horses off and wash your hands clean of them.

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post #3 of 25 Old 05-23-2012, 10:06 PM
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There are so many blurred lines here... is this your property?

Personally I would get in writing that you are going to start charging him for hay and if he doesn't pay then you kick him and his horses out. I would have started this agreement in writing, because "oh I'll pay for hay" is just a string of words, not a binding agreement. What happens when one of the horses gets hurt and there's a huge vet bill.. who pays it? Do you think he will after using your horse and failing to pay the hay expenses?

Treat this like a business arrangement. Get it in writing, and kick his butt out if he doesn't pay.
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I would LOVE to. But the thing is, this is technically my parent's property. And my parents are letting him keep his horses here, not me. If it were my decision, I would have had his horses to the curb a long time ago. But they won't do anything about it! I tried confronting my dad about either kicking the horses out or having him pay board and he's like, "Joe's my friend...I haven't kicked your friends out of my house, so KNOCK IT OFF."

UGH. My parents are way too nice.

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post #5 of 25 Old 05-23-2012, 11:36 PM
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Since your parents won't take any action, there really isn't much you can do.

If you want him to leave Rusty alone, why not mention it. Say "Hey Joe, Rusty is in training and I'd really prefer him to not be ridden by other people right now."
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post #6 of 25 Old 05-23-2012, 11:47 PM
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Tell your parents he is ruining the training, money and time on your horses.
Tell him to leave your tack alone, you paid for it. period. Lock your tack up someplace. Even if it is in your bedroom. He will be there for as long as your parents allow it. IF you wanted to cause trouble you could ask him does he feel guilty for taking advantage of your parents? but then you would have your parents to deal with. Tell your parents you do not want him to mess with your animals.
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Oh my goodness, what a mess. I sort of had a similar problem when I let some friends board at my place, they just took advantage. I feel your aggravation about Knight not getting to eat. It's weird but sometimes horses mirror us as people Knight is the trusting horse while the others run all over him. I know these friends horses mirrored their owners. I had so much fencing up on my property trying to make it so that every horse got their fair share of feed and no one picked on this one or that one, it was crazy. I was exhausted feeding in so many different pens and watering. So I finally told them all to go, except for one. I now have all 5 horses together they get along great.
I would tell him he can't ride Rusty, and please do not ask anymore. Give whatever reasons you want it's your horse. Could you get your sibling involved, to help out with your parents since Knight is for your niece.
It's so tough to tell your parents what to do since they are your parents. Your parents sound so nice and probably just don't see what you see.
Before we had fencing around the whole property my husband put our gelding on a pic line. We had fencing on the back half but so that the horse was around us and giving him interaction he would put him on our front lawn on a pick line and he would graze. It wasn't hard to do. My friend trained her horse to come to the front gate and she opens it and his grain is in a bucket and once he finishes she opens the gate and he goes right back in, she started with a lead line but now she doesn't have to use one, he knows the drill. Just some suggestions to possibly help Knight gets some groceries in.
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post #8 of 25 Old 05-24-2012, 12:27 AM
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Wowwwwwwwwwwwww! I don't know what to say other than I feel for you. I guess do what you can with what belongs to you and keep talking to your parents about the rest. Why are you the one taking care and feeding all the horses? That sucks! Sorry to hear, and please keep us posted on what happens.

Have to add. I am a don't touch what is mine person, I just do not know how you are keeping your cool!

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post #9 of 25 Old 05-24-2012, 01:27 AM
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Either learn to build a fence yourself, recruit some friends to help you do it, or just suck it up and deal. I don't really see that you have any rights here. Its your parents' property, they can do what they like with it, and as much as you may not like it, if you're underage, the horses don't belong to you, they belong to your parents, and your parents get to decide who uses them and who doesn't. If you're an adult, then take your horses and move, end of story. I'm really sorry this is happening to you, and it sounds like it really sucks, but if you're a minor, the sooner you let go of what you can't change, the sooner you can move on and enjoy what you DO have, and if you're an adult, quit whining and move already!
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YOu cannot control a lot of this. you can lock up your tack and be extremely clear that no one is to ride Rusty without your permission.

You can also fee the horses in many seperate piles out on the ground so that Knight , if pushed off one pile , can find another. We do this where we have 15 horses pastured together.
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