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    03-02-2012, 02:27 AM
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Unhappy Need to vent and get your opinions

So first off I am feel like a pretty crappy owner right now and very frustrated with my trainer and highly thinking of moving.

Here is why I am so frustrated,
Since in my trainers care I have had to fallow her to two barns in the past 6 months. This new barn seemed to be great but I can tell Ollie is not happy here, suddenly pulling back in the cross ties, pawing, shaking his head with a very worried eye...a lot!

As of last week he got trimmed, he is barefoot, never had a lame or sore step and has tough feet so doesn't need shoes...well this trim suddenly he is so sore he can't walk and seems to be on his left side more then the right.

Got a call from my trainer today informing me she's "just going to slap some shoes on" to get him un sore, didn't ask me and said infect she would have already had it done but couldn't get the farrier out this week....I was In shock and very upset she didnt think of asking me first, my horse not her's.

In this phone call I was told he was still sore yesterday when he was being worked and she continued to work him... All the hors who got trimmed are now lame and she is slapping shoes on, seems like something the farrier is doing, not just like 4 solid barefoot horses to go dead lame limping out if the blue... So very upset with that.

Past things are just as upsetting and I feel like I should be able to trust my trainer...and every month something bad seems to happen. He got pneumonia this winter and almost got it a second time, she and I worked well together to get him back to health and it's been a slow recovery but she is pushing him more and more and not addressing the issues of him being naughty. Yes he now has more turnout and is basically 100% healthy but I'm just not feeling comfertable with how things are going.

The person, now close friend who bought Klassy from my, now named Kasmere :) is helping me make plans to move him next month (April) to her barn where its around the clock care with video monitoring, pasture turnout all day with gelding and mare pastures, hay is weighed and there is a vet who boards, they BO and her sister live on site about 70ft away from the barn! They have many horses there needing special care and you wouldn't even guess some of there issues cause they look so happy and healthy cause it's top notch care that is individualized to each horse. I talked to the barn owner today and explained oliver's respiratory issues and immune issues from the pneumonia and she has a good idea to help him with many of his issues of being sensitive boy, stall walker, breathing issues and compromised immune system..and now him being very sore on his feet. I'm starting to wonder how I have any hair left I'm so stressed out!
I will be talking to my trainer tomorrow and giving her notice of me taking him and leaving. I feel bad to be leaving cause I know she means well and is just very young but there is to much negative things going on, and since it's a new barn she is taking on she doesn't know how much it's al going to cost right away and I can't move him again with her with his issues, I'm not excited for lessons anymore, not at all excited for show season...there will no show season cause he is not ready after all of this crap.

What do you think. Please don't be to harsh I'm trying to do what is best for my horse, I k ow he is trying to tell me something is really bothering him and I'm trying my best to stop and listen...

So frustrated and upset right now
Been crying cause I feel like I'm failing my horse
     
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    03-02-2012, 02:35 AM
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Foal
Your not failing your horse. But you can fail as a owner if not getting him away from the trainer ASAP. You have to find a trainer with huge references because I tell you what. Some don't know digglty ****. All talk. That's all he will be happy. Just give him love. He is telling you he wants out. He may get beat or something. Your his leader and he is trying to tell you
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    03-02-2012, 02:38 AM
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I know I can't move him till April maybe a little sooner. My trainer knows alot just isn't the trainer for us come to find out, she means well but is young, doing way to much and it's compermising alot around her. I'm not defending her but know she is trying to get it all to work. I'm going to stop lessons and training so am the only one working with him so there isn't more I have to undo once he is moved.
     
    03-02-2012, 10:36 AM
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Showing
Sorry to hear that. Until you can move him, talk to your trainer and make it clear that any changes to Oliver's care are cleared through you first. She had no right to "slap some shoes on him." It sounds like you'll be much happier at the new barn, especially with your old horse there.
     
    03-02-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by equiniphile    
Until you can move him, talk to your trainer and make it clear that any changes to Oliver's care are cleared through you first.
She needs to fire the trainer like yesterday. And I am glad to see she's doing it.
     
    03-02-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Klassic Superstar    
I'm going to stop lessons and training so am the only one working with him so there isn't more I have to undo once he is moved.
Good move.
     
    03-02-2012, 11:09 AM
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Have you gone to your trainer and demanded that the shoes she had put on your horse without your permission be removed at her cost?

I would.


Have you paid for the horseshoes yet?

I would not.


Why can't you move your horse now, or whenever your 30 day notice is up? Is there no room at the new barn? If there are no stalls, have you asked for your horse to be put on pasture board at the new barn until a stall comes open just so you can get him out of where he currently is?

You need to stop feeling "bad" for people who don't respect you as an owner.
     
    03-02-2012, 11:18 AM
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Trained
First, I'd tell her no shoes, period and put him on stall rest or pasture if available until he's not sore anymore.

2nd, I'd tell her she's not to train or work him anymore.

3rd, That farrier is not to come near him again, unless it's to pull the shoes off if you couldn't stop that in time.

4th, if the new barn has space, I'd pull him out right now, no 30 day notice and I'd dare her to take me to court on it.

5th, do it all yesterday! :)

You're not failing him, you're just not understanding how stupid some trainers can be. Doesn't matter if she's young, bitten off more than she can chew, is scrambling to make it work, etc etc. Not your problem. The fact that your horse is starting to have problems under her care IS your problem and one you'll be correcting for a while.

I'm a she-devil when it comes to my horses, and trainers and barn help know that going in. I rarely have problems and if I do, I pull the horse right now and I tell the trainer exactly WHY I have pulled the horse, right after the trailer is on it's way down the road. If she's young, hopefully she'll learn.
     
    03-02-2012, 11:24 AM
  #9
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Klassic Superstar    
As of last week he got trimmed, he is barefoot, never had a lame or sore step and has tough feet so doesn't need shoes...well this trim suddenly he is so sore he can't walk and seems to be on his left side more then the right.

In this phone call I was told he was still sore yesterday when he was being worked and she continued to work him... All the hors who got trimmed are now lame and she is slapping shoes on, seems like something the farrier is doing, not just like 4 solid barefoot horses to go dead lame limping out if the blue... So very upset with that.

Yes he now has more turnout
Hasn't it been very wet in your area? More turnout in the wet can equal soft, tender soles. That is not a farrier issue.
     
    03-02-2012, 11:51 AM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by mls    
Hasn't it been very wet in your area? More turnout in the wet can equal soft, tender soles. That is not a farrier issue.
Any farrier worth their salt would know this and trim accordingly. Also, a barn full of lame barefoot horses that were all previously sound should be setting off alarm bells. Feed and farrier would be what I would blame, not wet ground.
My farrier always asks before he does the horses what their "schedule" for riding and showing is and any other fun tidbits about the horse. If he is doing a horse under a week before an event he is very careful and with new horses is also careful until he finds their "optimum" trim length. He trims several navicular horses barefoot at my barn and they are all sound right after a trim even with wet ground.

Anyways, OP good luck! It is really hard to stick with a trainer, especially when they don't have their own barn but it is sometimes necessary for our competition goals. Good for you for putting your horses health first! I hope you can get him healthy and happy and find a coach with similar goals to yours. Good luck!
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