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    01-16-2014, 04:08 PM
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No hind shoes allowed at boarding facility?

I've been wondering about this for a while. One of my very experienced horse friends runs a boarding facility. She says she does not allow horses with shoes on their hind legs to be pasture boarded. The reason? She once had a shod horse kick another horse in the head and it died instantly.

Is this a common stipulation among boarding facilities? If a horse kicks another horse in the head with or without shoes, what's the likelihood that the horse will die from such an injury? Did the shoes really make the difference between life and death?
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    01-16-2014, 04:25 PM
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The hunter jumper barn I worked at for years didn't allow hind shoes. The reason being that kicks can do alot more damage than a bare hind foot. I wouldn't really worry about it killing a horse but cuts and deep tissue injury can deffinately be a bigger problem. I would guess that incident was a fluke. I don't keep hind shoes on my horse either. Really don't have a need for them as of now.
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    01-16-2014, 04:29 PM
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Interesting. I wasn't sure if she was just being overly jaded/protective or if it's indeed common practice.
     
    01-16-2014, 04:33 PM
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Green Broke
I have always felt all shoes should be off when horses are at pasture. Most definitely the back ones as shoes amplify the 'punch' of a kick.

One time, neighbours put front shoes on one of their horses (didn't really need it - I think it was more of a fashion statement) and put it back in the pasture. Sure enough the next morning one of the horses had a perfect upside down shoe shaped tear on his front face where the shod horse had struck him - it required a number of stitches.
     
    01-16-2014, 04:36 PM
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I have always felt all shoes should be off when horses are at pasture. Most definitely the back ones as shoes amplify the 'punch' of a kick.

One time, neighbours put front shoes on one of their horses (didn't really need it - I think it was more of a fashion statement) and put it back in the pasture. Sure enough the next morning one of the horses had a perfect upside down shoe shaped tear on his front face where the shod horse had struck him - it required a number of stitches.
Ouch. Must be quite a skill to leave such a mark using front hooves.
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    01-16-2014, 05:20 PM
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In an established herd, I don't worry about hind shoes being a problem. My TB needs them because of thin soles and walls, and he's turned out with four horses he's been with for 3+ years.

It's not all that uncommon for boarding barns to not allow more than private turnout for full-shod horses. I have two horses boarded at a facility that allows them on a case-by-case basis. My Reiner has sliders in the summer and is allowed because she's not aggressive in the pasture (alpha mare, no one questions her, and pinned ears would stop any horse in her field). However, there are a few very playful colts in a separate herd that would probably not be allowed to have hind shoes.
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    01-16-2014, 05:57 PM
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Green Broke
Hmm, I personally have never heard of a boarding barn with that rule. While shoes will do more flesh damage than bare feet, if a kick is hard enough in the right spot on the head, it's going to die whether there are shoes on or not.

But each boarding barn has the right to set the rules as they please. If you don't like the rules, then don't board there.

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I have always felt all shoes should be off when horses are at pasture.
That would pose a problem for me then, because I don't stall my horses. They live in the pasture 24/7/365.

I have front shoes on my gelding for soundness issues, and back shoes on for better traction on the barrel pattern. I usually pull the shoes during the winter off-season.
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    01-16-2014, 06:34 PM
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I also agree, unless it is an established herd, no hind shoes!
It's the same reason we use safe fencing, don't put just in pasties etc..
Horses wake up with two thoughts in the morning - what to eat and how to kill myself!?
If you can reduce or eliminate one injury, JMO it's worth it.
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    01-16-2014, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevaux    
I have always felt all shoes should be off when horses are at pasture. Most definitely the back ones as shoes amplify the 'punch' of a kick.

One time, neighbours put front shoes on one of their horses (didn't really need it - I think it was more of a fashion statement) and put it back in the pasture. Sure enough the next morning one of the horses had a perfect upside down shoe shaped tear on his front face where the shod horse had struck him - it required a number of stitches.
What about horses that need shoes for soundness purposes? It's not like you can take the shoes off every evening when you turn them out :P

I've never heard of a barn around here (though I've never looked into it) that has this rule. I have heard others mention it, so it seems to be more common than I thought. I guess a kick can be a good deal more damaging if there's a shoe involved, but a kick in the face from a horse is still a kick in the face!
     
    01-16-2014, 07:05 PM
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Yearling
Think Brass knuckles vs. bare fist. Which would hurt more? No hind shoes in the pasture unless as others mentioned it is an established herd without any issues.
     

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