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post #11 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 11:10 AM
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All of those things would definitely bother me. My yearling is prone to choke so I have a sign on his stall door that specifically says, "Do not feed me treats - I choke!!" Maybe you could do the same? I definitely don't need him choking while I'm not there. No one at the barn would even know what was happening, unfortunately. That and my yearling tends to get lippy with treats. I don't need someone teaching him bad habits and me having to constantly correct them.

Have you asked her why she cuts his stall off during the day? If you pay for it, he should have access to it 24/7. Your horse is suffering at her expense, unfortunately, because it seems like she wants less of a mess to clean up. As long as the shavings aren't dusty and there's good circulation in the barn, there should be no respiratory issues there.

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post #12 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 11:25 AM Thread Starter
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There is a small tree in back of paddock that gives some shade for limited part of day, unfortunately does not help him with bug situation that really bother him. Urine is swept out the door of stall into paddock. He is locked out only because of going bathroom in stall. I don't like hand treats, but in a bucket is fine, he tends to get mouthy and I don't want to encourage it, that is why I'm concerned about friends, children etc. who are not horse people giving him treats by hand.

And I do like shavings in a stall, I really do.
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post #13 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 11:28 AM
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There is a small tree in back of paddock that gives some shade for limited part of day, unfortunately does not help him with bug situation that really bother him. Urine is swept out the door of stall into paddock. He is locked out only because of going bathroom in stall. I don't like hand treats, but in a bucket is fine, he tends to get mouthy and I don't want to encourage it, that is why I'm concerned about friends, children etc. who are not horse people giving him treats by hand.

And I do like shavings in a stall, I really do.
Sunny, I'd approach your BO with all the concerns. No shade on hot days is the biggest no-no to me. And no, what you have there is not normal. At least not in those barns (both - cheap and expensive) I've been to.

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post #14 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 12:04 PM
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I don't have shaving in my stall but the stall is on dirt, not mats. Who has only mats in a stall? All I see is a stinky mess and pressure sores.
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post #15 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
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KigerQueen, your post just got me thinking, he has been sensitive on his right side like he's sore, but no visible injury or other symptoms, vet just checked him. I know he loves to lie down, maybe the mats are causing some soreness, its not major, but when I groom him he pins his ears so I have to be gentle. I hadn't thought of that as a cause.
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post #16 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 12:14 PM
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At our barn, the rule is that you don't pet other people's horses and you certainly don't give them treats! Now if a couple of owners are standing around chatting and the horses are in turn-out or on a lead, etc. we all touch each other's horses, but the management doesn't want people going up and down the rows using it as a petting zoo. LOL
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post #17 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 12:23 PM
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I have boarded in a cuple of different places and rule of thimb is: yes you can pet (not sit there for 2 hours but in passing) other people horses if they did not care. I never feed someones horse unless I know its ok. I don't mined if people pet and give small treats to my mare as she is not mouthy. BUT I don't like people feeding my horse or messing with her without my permission. The ONLY reason I have ever gone into someone's horse's stall is because something happend (ex got cut bad, no water, is colicing) and I call/ get someone asap.
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post #18 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 12:32 PM
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I would move my horse.
You have already stated what you are paying for and she is not giving that to you. She clearly does not plan to change because she does it anyway when you are not "supposed" to be there. From what you have said I don't think yhou will get her to change for you.
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post #19 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 02:26 PM
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The first part happens at my barn. It's a rather large facility (76 stalls) and has a therapy program, so there are often lots of children that like to pet and feed the horses. My horse is in the back, so I don't think he gets much of it though. We have had people put up signs asking not to feed treats and AFAIK they've been respected.

The second part would really bother me. Both for not using shavings and for the horse being locked out of the stall. And sweeping the urine out into the paddock isn't sufficient- there needs to be something there to soak it up. You want to talk about respiratory problems- breathing ammonia all day will do it. Your horse is also likely to get urine scald on his legs from the urine bouncing back up when there's no bedding. I'd sit down with the BO let her know that those 2 things MUST be fixed. If she agrees, plan on making a few unannounced visits during the day over the next 2-3 weeks to make sure it's being properly executed (be sure to check that the urine soaked bedding is actually getting removed, not just covered up with new bedding). If she doesn't agree or doesn't execute as agreed then start looking for somewhere new.
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post #20 of 28 Old 07-10-2013, 05:57 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you all for the good advice, and confirmation of what I was thinking.
Long story short, I went this afternoon and he was locked out again along with all of the other horses who were stall offenders. I called and asked for an explanation, was told it was for today to dry out the stalls because of the urine (ammonia) smell build up. I suggested that was why shavings were used to soak it up so it doesn't become an issue. She stands by her position that shavings are bad for horse's lungs and she won't use them. So I respect that its her barn, her rules, so I will be taking a look around at other places.
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