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        12-21-2013, 06:07 PM
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    Foal
    Question Overreacting owner or is my worry appropriate?

    Where I board, the people are very nice, but the condition/maintenance of the place worries me. First of all, when my friend and I brought our horses, the owner (let's call him Jay, not his real name but I don't want to name names ) said he had 2 open stalls. When we got there, it turned out that the '2 stalls' were actually a foaling stall with probably an 8' panel in the middle separating it into 2 stalls (they probably measure 8'x10'). The buckets in both stalls are severely cracked and misshaped, and hung by a rusty wire on a hook. The stalls only get cleaned once or twice a week, and every time I go in there it's literally soaked and all I see is poopy hay. They only get fed once a day, and the grain and hay are both made at the farm, so it's really good quality, but just the fact that they only get it once a day… They get out to the pasture whenever the weather is good, and if it's good they will stay out all night (I don't mind that, Duchess likes being in the pasture over a stall). The condition of the pasture bothers me, however. The top part is about 1 acre, and at the very top by the gate, there are huge, random concrete slabs with drop offs up to 2' that go down to 1+' of mud. Then in the middle of the first acre, there are a bunch of assorted sized rocks (from giant and slippery to tiny enough to stick in the tiny crevices of her hooves and make her uncomfortable). Throughout the top and middle part of the entire pasture (which probably adds up to about 4-5 acres), there's always at least a foot of mud and poop. Now since it's winter, the ground freezes and there are holes with up to 6 inch diameters and a foot deep. There are probably 12 horses in Duchess' pasture, and there is always at least one fight going on every time I go out. She has gotten a lot of cuts/scars since we've been there (we moved on Halloween, and today is December 21). Since she obviously gets picked on, I'm afraid that one day she is going to get picked on and try to get away and hurt her leg falling into a hole/getting it stuck in the mud. I've seen her trip in the field one time being chased by a horse, and I was sincerely concerned that she could be hurt. Sometime after Christmas I am moving her as soon as possible. Do you guys think I'm overreacting about her situation or are my actions/worries appropriate?
         
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        12-21-2013, 06:31 PM
      #2
    Yearling
    WHY are you still there?????

    With all you list...you are in a ticking time-bomb for a disastrous injury to happen.

    The place is NOT safe, is not set up to accommodate 2 full size horses in stalls as you describe nor are the buckets safe for the horses to have access to...

    Heck... I would rather see them in a fenced in backyard with a bale of hay and fresh bucket of water to eat, put a turnout blanket on them and let them at least be safe till you find a new barn...and FAST!!


    I would of been gone the first week of November with what you write...not still sticking around!!


    There is stupidity and then there is negligence... this place if it is as you describe it has passed the line into negligence....NOT at my horses expense.
         
        12-21-2013, 06:34 PM
      #3
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    Originally Posted by Duchybear123    
    Where I board, the people are very nice, but the condition/maintenance of the place worries me. First of all, when my friend and I brought our horses, the owner (let's call him Jay, not his real name but I don't want to name names ) said he had 2 open stalls. When we got there, it turned out that the '2 stalls' were actually a foaling stall with probably an 8' panel in the middle separating it into 2 stalls (they probably measure 8'x10'). The buckets in both stalls are severely cracked and misshaped, and hung by a rusty wire on a hook. The stalls only get cleaned once or twice a week, and every time I go in there it's literally soaked and all I see is poopy hay. They only get fed once a day, and the grain and hay are both made at the farm, so it's really good quality, but just the fact that they only get it once a day… They get out to the pasture whenever the weather is good, and if it's good they will stay out all night (I don't mind that, Duchess likes being in the pasture over a stall). The condition of the pasture bothers me, however. The top part is about 1 acre, and at the very top by the gate, there are huge, random concrete slabs with drop offs up to 2' that go down to 1+' of mud. Then in the middle of the first acre, there are a bunch of assorted sized rocks (from giant and slippery to tiny enough to stick in the tiny crevices of her hooves and make her uncomfortable). Throughout the top and middle part of the entire pasture (which probably adds up to about 4-5 acres), there's always at least a foot of mud and poop. Now since it's winter, the ground freezes and there are holes with up to 6 inch diameters and a foot deep. There are probably 12 horses in Duchess' pasture, and there is always at least one fight going on every time I go out. She has gotten a lot of cuts/scars since we've been there (we moved on Halloween, and today is December 21). Since she obviously gets picked on, I'm afraid that one day she is going to get picked on and try to get away and hurt her leg falling into a hole/getting it stuck in the mud. I've seen her trip in the field one time being chased by a horse, and I was sincerely concerned that she could be hurt. Sometime after Christmas I am moving her as soon as possible. Do you guys think I'm overreacting about her situation or are my actions/worries appropriate?

    If you are paying full board, the bolded part is enough to get your horse out of there YESTERDAY. My filly nastied up her 11x12 stall in single 24 hour period...I can't imagine leaving my horse to stand in an 8 x 10 stall full of its own urine and feces.
         
        12-21-2013, 07:53 PM
      #4
    Foal
    It's horrible to see, but me only being 15 and my parents not making too much extra money, they can only pay $225 (which is the board there), so I have to find a job to move to a better place. And trust me, I'm doing anything and everything I can to try and find a place that will hire at 15. Know any?
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        12-21-2013, 08:09 PM
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    Chickfila is the only one I know of, but you can also nanny, petsit, tutor younger kids, etc.,

    Until then, you need to go out there and clean your horse's stall yourself every day. Toss it some more hay (that you payed for...don't take hay you weren't contracted to have) when you go feed it. Check it for injuries.

    If you can not move your horse very soon, sell it to someone who can. There is nothing OK about where your horse lives now. Horses are self-destructive machines and can/will hurt themselves even when there is nothing to hurt themselves on. There is a lot to get hurt on where it currently lives.

    Have you tried bringing your parents out to see the conditions that your horse is living in?
         
        12-21-2013, 08:15 PM
      #6
    Yearling
    I agree with Endiku, if you can't do what he needs. Sell him. As hard as that is, sometimes it's for the best. But that's worst case scenario, just start with cleaning his stall your self, if you want him fed more than once a day, go out and throw and extra flake. Or ask if they will. Can you request to have your stall cleaned more than once a week? You are paying to be there.
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        12-21-2013, 08:22 PM
      #7
    Foal
    We actually lease her, but I'm the only person who does anything with her. I met her a year ago and fell in love, and my friend bought her for me. And they moved their horses there, so if I had anything to do with it I never would have moved there. But we are buying her after Christmas and moving when the new barn gets an opening in late January. The owner won't let us clean the stalls or feed/water, he says he has his way of doing things. And about the stalls; he says he can tell if a horse is healthy by looking at it's poop. Every time I go out I check her for injuries before I ride and try to kick the nasty bedding to the sides of the stalls. My moms been out, but she doesn't have much experience with horses and after I explained these things to her she agrees with me that we should move. My stepdad hasn't been out, but when I described the place to him he immidiately said we need to move as soon as I get a job. Whenever I go out I always groom her as good as I can and watch for thrush/leg/hoof issues and so far she's okay. Every day I just wait and pray that we buy her already and just frikkin move! I don't want her to become unsound for riding or inured at all, and it kills me knowing that if she did get hurt/sick, I wouldn't know until I went out to see her. 😖
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        12-21-2013, 08:24 PM
      #8
    Foal
    And if I asked him to throw extra hay, he probably wouldn't. Or he would charge extra. I hate this barn and can't wait to move. I don't want to sell, because she's only going to be there for less than another month at the most.
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        12-21-2013, 08:28 PM
      #9
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    That's absolutely stupid. Its YOUR horse. You can clean the stall if you want to. You may have to buy your own straw, but whatever. You can do it. And you sure as heck can FEED your own horse what you want to feed it.

    ETA- just saw you don't own it...ask the girl you're leasing it from, but seriously- if they don't see a problem with the living conditions or don't let you feed/clean its stall, I'd be questioning them as friends.
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        12-21-2013, 08:39 PM
      #10
    Foal
    They are great friends, but they are like my parents; don't make a lot of extra money, but she LOVES her horse and could never sell him. She would get a job, but she is only 14 and can't get a job until she turns 15 in May. Once she turns 15 she's planning to get a job and move. But until then, she's in the same situation as I am, with most of the same concerns. I would clean the stalls, but I can't even find a fork to clean with! And the bedding is sawdust… I don't like that. But I just keep telling Duchess (and myself), "Only one more month….".
         

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