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  • Nc laws on injury riding someones horse
  • If a dog spooks a horse and the rider falls can they legally sue

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    10-25-2012, 09:25 AM
  #11
Weanling
My dog chased one of my horses in the pasture once. ONCE! She kicked him good and we never had that problem again, lol!
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    10-25-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by themacpack    
Rolling your eyes at the state of our legal system or my statement? If it's the latter, I was referring specifically to dogs entering an arena and chasing a horse during someone's ride, so not sure what would be eye-roll worthy about that A barn owner having a dog on property that enters the arena and chases someone's horse causing a situation in which horse or rider is injured is very much a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Mostly the fact that everyone is so dang sue happy.

So... I guess it would be both, since your mind automatically went to, "Sue the BO!"

(For the record, I work for a personal injury law firm so I make my living on people bringing injury claims... and I can tell you "dog chases horse, rider falls off" is something we probably wouldn't even bother opening a file on).
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    10-25-2012, 10:11 AM
  #13
Green Broke
^^^ But when said rider not only falls off but breaks their neck??? Whole different story.
     
    10-25-2012, 10:46 AM
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^^^ But when said rider not only falls off but breaks their neck??? Whole different story.
I don't disagree that it would be a terrible thing, I'm just saying that a lot of times in claims like these it's considered "assumption of risk" and there isn't much of a recourse. People can sue all they like... doesn't mean they'll win.

A dog actually chasing a horse would have a better chance of there being a winning case than a dog running through the arena and spooking the horse.

Of course laws vary state by state... we only practice in MN in WI.
     
    10-25-2012, 10:49 AM
  #15
Green Broke
Yes but by having an agressive dog loose would be negligence so assumption of risk is out the window. I never assume that an agressive animal will chase me at a place of business.
     
    10-25-2012, 10:59 AM
  #16
Foal
Sorry that you fell off, and yes the trainers dog should know better but I would consider it a training opportunity. Sorry if this sounds unsympathetic but it doesn't matter how controlled your enviroment is at home or how well behaved the dogs there are, you will eventually want to ride or even just deal with that horse on the ground somewhere else. And in that somewhere else there is going to be badly behaved dogs and all sorts of other small rude objects including children and your horse needs to know how to cope. I would rather my horse learn to ignore dogs etc in the safe confines of a ring before I am on a road with traffic or at a show with little kids that will not be able to get out of the way if Dobbin goes sideways because of a loose dog. I had a bunch of free range chickens that would wander through everywhere including the outside rings - now that was despooking.
     
    10-25-2012, 11:20 AM
  #17
mls
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Originally Posted by poppy1356    
Yes but by having an agressive dog loose would be negligence so assumption of risk is out the window. I never assume that an agressive animal will chase me at a place of business.
If a dog was indeed agressive (i.e. Prone to unprovoked attacks), I'm sure this would not of been an isolated situation. It sounds as though it was bad timing for the Op.

Dog, cat, person, horse, snow falling off the roof, truck driving by, ATV's, etc. A horse will encounter many things in their life. Some may startle them, some that 'should' - won't and other things that shouldn't - do.
     
    10-25-2012, 11:21 AM
  #18
mls
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    10-25-2012, 11:39 AM
  #19
Yearling
The trouble is that some dogs turn it into a habit to chase horses. I have worked on cattle stations where dogs were used extensively, and if they worked as they were supposed to they are one of the most valuable things anyone working cattle can have and I have been told by dog advocates that 1 good dog is worth at least 3 men on a horse (I had a cattle dog when I was a ringer, but he got a kick in the head from a bull when he was still a little fella and figured heeling cattle was for suckers after that so he wasn’t much of a cattle dog from then on, but he was my dog and I loved him and had him for 16 years (even if he did end up being more just a pet than a work dog); but then he never turned into a horse chaser either. And for example, my uncle used to have a little place of about 38,000 acres and he could muster the whole place with only him on a horse and a posse of dogs, he had, and has, good horses, dogs and cattle. But if any of those dogs got into the habit of trying to heel horses instead of cattle their days were numbered. A good work dog is worth its weight in gold, but once they make chasing horses a habit they cross an unforgivable line as far as I'm concerned; a bullet is what they get.
     
    10-25-2012, 11:44 AM
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From my point of view this isnt the dogs fault nor should it be said the dogs were bad. Its the owners fault for not training the dogs how to act around horses.

That being said I also think as a rider you/we should be ready at all times for something unknown like this to just happen. As an outdoor rider having dogs chase or come up fast behind the horses is normal. Most dogs are not trained to be around horses. If I was in an indoor arena and the doors were wide open then that leaves the issue who left the doors open to allow the animals in. But nevertheless be prepared for something to go wrong.

Then what would be said if a bird so happened to fly into the arena and spook the horse and you were dumped... or if another horse was in the arena and freaked and caused your horse to freak... it all leads too how the rider handles the situation and how desentized/trained the horse is. Which imo every horse should be completely desentized especially if your worried about injury.

But that's just my 2 cents...
     

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